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England at the World Cup 2018

By the by, isn't Kane very close to getting the golden boot now. Unless Croatia and Modric do something spectacular Mbappe and Griezeman would need a hat trick in the final to just draw level.

There you are FATE, I'VE JUST TEMPTED YOU. :mad:
 
Lukaku hattrick (in the 3rd place play off) would take him to 7.
Aren't 3rd place goals just joke goals? I remember the England bench doing Mexican waves when they played the 3rd place in 1990. Just about the time Peter Shilton let in a howler. :(
 
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Face it, half this squad will be playing for teams like Hull/Sunderland/any other unglamourous side in the third division by the time of the next World Cup.

The FA will have appointed Mourinho and we'll get knocked out in the group stage. It's the English way. :thumbs:
 
Hope they win the 3rd place thing today and it sounds like Southgate will be putting out his strongest side, after 2/3 injuries. Same time the softy in me would like to see all the squad get a bit more game time (think they've all player some time, except the reserve keepers).
 
Also there's nothing on telly :mad:

TdF.

Is there any sign of someone creative coming through the ranks? And someone who'll get a chance of a regular run in the top flight? That's where England are most obviously lacking, with nothing akin to Xavi, Kroos or Pirlo (they're extreme examples, admittedly). Phil Foden has a lot of good things said about him, including by Guardiola. However, will the latter stick at City long enough to give him a go?
 
This is an interesting article:

A curious aspect of the aftermath was that the Croatians seemed to take a certain malicious delight in overturning England’s bandwagon. “They should be more humble and respect their opponents more,” lectured Modric, while the right-back Sime Vrsajlko remarked that England’s supposed evolution to a more sophisticated game had not been able to withstand Croatia’s pressing game.

Croatia’s gleeful willingness to kick the English when they are down might puzzle some in England: after all, the humility and likeability of Gareth Southgate’s squad was supposed to be their USP. Rather than “Send Us Victorious” on the side of their bus it should have said just “Humble”.

Yet it is evident that all the “easy side of the draw” stuff that was indulged by English media and fans rankled with Croatia, just as it had annoyed the Swedes, who had bristled with “we’ll see you out there” quotes before their quarter-final, but were not good enough to make their point on the pitch.

And remember that the rest of the world has been fascinated these last few weeks by the English meme mania encapsulated in three simple words: “It’s Coming Home”. As Vedran Corluka chortled to English journalists on his way through the mixed zone, “It’s not coming home.” It seemed the Croats didn’t like that either, and judging by some of the gloating reaction around the world, they were not alone.

This seems to cruelly add insult to English injury: don’t they realise that “It’s Coming Home” was only ever just a joke, it was ironic bravado, it was never really meant to be taken seriously, and anyway, aren’t we allowed to get carried away? This is why Roy Keane drew such furious criticism for his comments on ITV after the match. He mocked his fellow pundits, suggesting they had already started thinking about the victory parade, and told them they needed a reality check. “Roy Keane is just awful I am sorry” spluttered Ed Miliband, proving the point that it’s not always obvious when things are said half-in-jest.
From a distance and stripped of context and perhaps passed through linguistic and cultural filters, It’s Coming Home began to lose its sheen of irony, repeated millions and billions of times it began to sound less like a joke and more like an arrogant prediction. And for some of those bellowing it out perhaps that’s what it was: when a joke attains that extreme level of saturation you’re long past the point where everyone understands it the same way.

Ken Early: ‘It’s Coming Home’ derailed England’s dream
 
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