framed
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What does she spend the other 'half of her life' doing - is she employed to do 'humanitarian work in Calais' or does she hop on and off the ferries at her own expense?
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What does she spend the other 'half of her life' doing - is she employed to do 'humanitarian work in Calais' or does she hop on and off the ferries at her own expense?
Joe Reilly
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How very New Labour of you.
Thunderfist
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Ewa is a public figure, the other woman isn't, so I'm not going to discuss her work history with you (How was your JobSearch in the last two weeks?). But if pretending that she's a trustafarian or a slumming aristocrat makes you happy then go for it.
Btw the whole Smashy & Nicey gag is based on the fact that they have to be seen to be doing charity instead of quietly getting on with it. So, nice as it was to see Harry and Paul again (they were really at their best in the 90s wouldn't you agree?) it doesn't really fit.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I always wanted a tree house when I was a kid but we didn't have a back garden. What got you in to being an undertaker?
Thunderfist
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That is so, so sad. I'm really sorry that I didn't check my privilege without posting. In future all references to trees will be prefaced with TRIGGER WARNING: Arboresence.
In the meantime maybe this'll cheer you up.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Chick Webb
Countryfile and a can
You're not into fanfiction obviously.
It's a warning that is put on stories, articles etc. if they are deemed to contain something readers will find excessively upsetting or "triggering". Stuff like rape or child abuse. Imo it's fine to include these warnings in fiction if people feel the need, but having them in an academic context is infantilising and ridiculous.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
and yet, thats whats happening increasingly. I read last year about some attempt to have trigger warnings on a uni campus. Well thats anyone studying history, politics, divinity, literature whatever fucked if they avoid triggers. History is one long litany of rape and war ffs. And fiction has its horrors.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'm seeing it all over the place and not necessarily political places. It's contagious.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
I'm traumatised by trigger warnings . Wish there was some way I could find out beforehand if I'm going to be subjected to one .
cantsin
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"Trigger warning" proponents see them in the same terms as nut allergy warnings etc, which for victims of abuse / rape etc must make sense , and I guess must apply equally to fiction / non fiction , ie : a triggers a trigger.
Personally can't think of strong arguments against them. But also find it hard to picture anyone I know, whatever their circumstances, whatever they've been through, wanting them/needing them IRL . But cld be totally wrong on that , and they'll be standard practise in yrs to come.
Personally can't think of strong arguments against them. But also find it hard to picture anyone I know, whatever their circumstances, whatever they've been through, wanting them/needing them IRL . But cld be totally wrong on that , and they'll be standard practise in yrs to come.
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Don't want to derail the thread here but...
The strongest argument I can offer against trigger warnings is that as someone who has suffered from anxiety in the past and a trainee mental health nurse now I think it is more important to help people work through their anxieties around a difficult subject rather than delineate it as a panic attack 'trigger' and allow person to avoid it rather than resolve their thought processes. Just the word 'trigger' primes a person for a panic attack before they have even had chance to rationalise their situation.
Say a student is in a literature class and they have been sexually assaulted in the past and one of the poems or whatever contains a reference to rape. You could have a TW warning and the person could leave the room and allow their anxiety to debilitate their studies/life, etc. when in real life rape doesn't come with a TW... Or ideally you could help them address their thoughts.
For example: I am in a lecture, rape has just been mentioned, I have been raped and I feel uncomfortable and on the verge of a panic attack, HOWEVER I am safe in the company of my friends who I trust and who are there for me, I am safe and I will not be raped.
This approach is best way forward IMO because it doesn't just allow a person to identify what personally makes them anxious, it actively helps them deal with it as well.
It is far more sustainable and compassionate in the long wrong to help victims who TWs apply to to develop their own ways of coping with anxiety rather than avoiding things which might set it off. I recognise that there's a big problem with victims of domestic/sexual assault in particular not coming forward which means they are out of reach the mental health service, but for all the efforts to implement trigger warnings university counselling services could just run a lecture a term teaching people basic rationalisation strategies and try to give them the confidence to face the real world - where life doesn't come with a bleeding TW.
In my opinion the trigger warning movement resonates with the left's focus on identity politics. I.e. it attacks the symptoms of a problem rather than the cause. The biggest proponents of TWs at my university are the same kind of self-professed 'intersectional feminist' wankers who fail to see the cause of a bad thing and attack the symptoms of it instead - e.g. they call for more black or female CEOs without grasping the fact that capitalism is the structural root of discrimination in the first place, and such 'solutions' would actually make things worse for working class blacks/women. TWs represent the same failure to work out the root of the problem rather than the symptoms IMO.
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Not sure if I'm being thick here, please tell me that's supposed to be a joke! I've heard crazier shit at SU meetings...
Thunderfist
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For the love of Christ don't tell me anyone took this seriously? Where's the "I am being massively facetious/sarcastic" emoticon for the benefit of the more literally minded browsers?
I just wanted to know what it meant, sarcastically or otherwise.
Thunderfist
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Phew! I thought you were dead set against all this intersectionalist privilege theory stuff - what happened to 'know your enemy"?
Im just wwc male. I don't think it's intended for me anyway. Shrug.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I've been wondering that myself. Because I've been seeing a fuckload of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" recently and have been wondering what the fuck has happened to people's critical faculties.
Not aimed at you C66
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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is also popular.Thunderfist
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Aaah but did you have a back garden? Are you arboreally privileged?
Surely this question requires context? I can point you to where you can buy a house with garden for under ten grand near my home town where as in London you can pay £6,000 pcm private rent and having nothing more than a communal landing.
intersol32
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That would be a good place to start. If you can get hold of a copy of the IWCA/AFA "Filling the Vacuum" document, it may also make useful background reading. Not sure if the full text is online somewhere?
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