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[Corax]

I don't know if we have to say that describing the political views of the EDL is like describing the political views of a sports club

It was an extreme analogy to illustrate the point admittedly. But I do think the point stands. Tangling ourselves up trying to stick them in a particular political box seems pointless at best, and counterproductive at worst - especially as many of their advocates don't conform to any label one might pick and so will kick back against it and possibly then become further entrenched in their positions as a defensive reaction.

I think that it's more useful to see the EDL as a broad based social movement rather than a party with tenets of faith.

I'm not sure just how 'broad' that base is - in terms of demographics for instance - but these things are all relative, and it's certainly a more accurate and useful description than sticking a swastika on them or whatever.

 

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[Favelado]

Citizen66 not pedantry to point out your inability to say what you mean

You were wrong anyway. "Between" is now commonly used in this way and usage wins over supposed grammar rules. It's now common enough to be correct usage, regardless of whether people used to consider it an error. So fuck off, you twat.

 

[Pickman's model]

You were wrong anyway. "Between" is now commonly used in this way and usage wins over supposed grammar rules. It's now common enough to be correct usage, regardless of whether people used to consider it an error. So fuck off, you twat.

Source or stfu.

but let me quickly elaborate. something can only be 'between' more than one thing - a bridge between two banks of a river, peace between two nations, a conversation between three people, war between classes. you can't have a conversation between one person! although you can have disagreement between members of a class, you can't have disagreement between a class; you have disagreement among a class of people.

be·tween
biˈtwēn
preposition
preposition: between; preposition: bet.

1. 1.​
   at, into, or across the space separating (two objects or regions).
   
   "the border between Mexico and the United States"
   synonyms: in the space separating, in the middle of, with one on either side;
   amid,amidst;
   archaicbetwixt
   "Philip stood between his parents"
   • expressing movement from one side or point to the other and back again.
     
     "traveling by train between London and Paris"
2. 2.​
   in the period separating (two points in time).
   
   "they snack between meals"
3. 3.​
   in the interval separating (two points on a scale).
   
   "a man aged between 18 and 30"
4. 4.​
   indicating a connection or relationship involving two or more parties.
   
   "the relationship between Pauline and Chris"
   synonyms: connecting, linking, joining; More
   
   
   
   • with reference to a collision or conflict.
     
     "a collision in midair between two light aircraft above Geneva"
   • with reference to a choice or differentiation involving two or more things being considered together.
     
     "if you have to choose between two or three different options"
5. 5.​
   by combining the resources or actions of (two or more people or other entities).
   
   "we have created something between us"
   • shared by (two or more people or things).
     
     "they had drunk between them a bottle of Chianti"

 

[Pickman's model]

but Favelado if you want to impress with your knowledge of current english usage you should have done it a couple of days ago rather than stirring up something which isn't too entertaining just in the vain hope of outpedanting me. btw 'usage' doesn't necessarily win over rules otherwise things like 'apple's 50p' would be considered correct.

 

[malatesta32]

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what?

 

[DaveCinzano]

what?

 

[bignose1]

Sorry for those postings that I have removed. Must stop posting after pub.

 

[JimW]

Sorry for those postings that I have removed. Must stop posting after pub.

I'm sorry you removed 'em before i read 'em

 

[bignose1]

It was stuff I should really save for another day.

 

[bamalama]

I'm sorry you removed 'em before i read 'em

I read 'em but forgot em all except someone got a slap at manchester gay pride

 

[DaveCinzano]

I read 'em but forgot em all except someone got a slap at manchester gay pride

I think you must have misread them - they were all one man arguing with himself over the size of the biggest pike he ever landed.

 

[Favelado]

but Favelado if you want to impress with your knowledge of current english usage you should have done it a couple of days ago rather than stirring up something which isn't too entertaining just in the vain hope of outpedanting me. btw 'usage' doesn't necessarily win over rules otherwise things like 'apple's 50p' would be considered correct.

"Between" can now be used in the way the poster used it. Future dictionaries will reflect this, as they are always catching up with the public. It is now commonly used to describe actions or relationships in a group consisting of a number of constituent units or people. However, "between" and "among" are not entirely interchangable though, I agree. You're right about me being petty and late in this case. Apologies to other posters.

The greengrocer's apostrophe example is interesting. Usage is a mess and the rules are daft so that problem will rumble on for the foreseeable. If 100% of people started pluralising nouns with apostrophes, then the rules would indeed change. There's a tipping point that has to be reached for these things. So I'd still argue you with you on that point.

Thread-jack over. You have full right of reply to say mean things and then people can talk about the EDL again. I know, kind aren't I?

 

[elbows]

Hate-filled scum on Facebook cheering another mosque arson attempt:

https://twitter.com/steveplrose/status/372112096105750528/photo/1

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Celtic casuals from Cowdenbeath take it to SDL. I heard earlier in the day, 4 SDL got done and one didn't make it to demo as he was chased up and down the High St.



(I know people's faces aren't blanked out but it's already got to past 8k views and nothing illegal is caught on camera)

 

[ddraig]

what was their beef with the garage?

 

[DaveCinzano]

what was their beef with the garage?

No Ginster's Ham & Cheese Slices

 

[ddraig]

halal garages! the final straw

 

[Jeremy Vile]

what was their beef with the garage?

And what was going on with the transit van?

 

[butchersapron]

It's supposed to employ a paedo - and is right by a school. I don't know the truth of either claim.

 

[butchersapron]

And what was going on with the transit van?

Looked like he nudged one of the SDL people who was doing the we own the road thing. Camera went straight to van reg which i thought a bit...odd.