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audiotech said:
"Blood on the Streets" ended up as the title of a book, which I still have. Grim reading.
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yeah had to go thru all this stuff for the book. very grim. random murders and violent assaults and the classic, stylish dog poo thru letter box. you gotta love the far right!
 
Just came across this, sorry but lol

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Anudder Oik said:
Fuck, It is the black flag of Jihad (pause video at 0.06s)



Only 6000 views so far on this other video posted up before. 1000 a day. Not to mention the thousands who will have viewed it on FB as the EDL publicise it and have a field day.

Well done UAF, you are helping to recruit for the EDL. They need you. Sort out your fucking stewarding.

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The flag in this vid is def the same one as in this link.
 
butchersapron said:
The flag in this vid is def the same one as in this link.
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Yep. I would love someone to point me to a moderate group, or even ultra-conservative non-extremist group that uses this flag.

Not even Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood use the flag, the only people who use the flag in Gaza are Salafists who criticise Hamas for not being Islamic enough.
 
Not sure if the silly cunts expect anyone to take this seriously or not, but apparently Stephen Hawking is an EDL supporter.....


Posted on EDL Bournemouth facebook page.
 
Limerick Red said:
Not across the board, only 2 people turned up in Southampton, Portsmouth was cancelled.
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Southampton's a bit of a paradox in some ways.

There's a heavy element of casual racism (together with the anti-immigration and anti-multiculturalism front), and a loudly proclaimed hatred of asians amongst certain sections of the community. My experience of living here for the past decade is that it's more overtly racist, and that racism is more common, than anywhere else I've lived in (or anywhere I know enough to make that call).

But I think we have the most apathetic racists/fash in the country. They just can't be arsed tbh.

It's a reflection on the place in general, which has been so badly mismanaged for so long that it's become a black hole of despair and hopeless resignation. Nothing interesting happens here, the built environment is shit and depressing, the education system sucks, employment prospects are limited and mainly in call-centres, and all the council ever do is build more flats and bicker with each other. All whilst comparative cities like Bristol and Cardiff have been sorting their shit out and becoming interesting places to exist. It's not just the potential EDLers that can't be arsed - it's everyone.

So - significant potential fash threat here, but not one that's ever likely to do anything organised. In the meantime, there's a helluva lot of street-level racist violence and verbal abuse. Countering that requires more than just a placard and a slogan though.
 
Streathamite said:
oh jesus, the muppet May has done something admirable!:eek:
And Keith Vaz. will wonders never cease...
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Admirable? Come on, you never supported state bans when the ANL or UAF demanded them, why would you when HnH and the state itself decides if will? When they ban chomsky then what? And this is the same power that she has used to tell Trenton Oldfield to get out of the country, the power to remove or refuse on the grounds their presence in the country is not conducive to the public good.
 
butchersapron said:
Admirable? Come on, you never supported state bans when the ANL or UAF demanded them, why would you when HnH and the state itself decides if will? When they ban chomsky then what? And this is the same power that she has used to tell Trenton Oldfield to get out of the country, the power to remove or refuse on the grounds their presence in the country is not conducive to the public good.
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Same government that just made speaking English a requirement of getting benefits too, and the EDL are loving that.

Introduced the same day that someone I know who volunteers at the CAB told me about a DV survivor who came into her CAB because she couldn't speak English and fled to Britain with next to nothing. Osborne wants people like her to starve, I hate the government as much as the EDL they are pushing the same shit and it's not hard to imagine them working together in the not too distant future.
 
butchersapron said:
Admirable? Come on, you never supported state bans when the ANL or UAF demanded them, why would you when HnH and the state itself decides if will? When they ban chomsky then what? And this is the same power that she has used to tell Trenton Oldfield to get out of the country, the power to remove or refuse on the grounds their presence in the country is not conducive to the public good.
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actually thinking on it. you have a point. I really, really can't envisage a day when Chomsky would get banned on essentially the same grounds - I don't think she could get away with that one, even if she (or any other HS) wanted to. I guess I let my utter hatred of the EDL and those bile-spewing scumbags to cloud my reason.
That and the fact I don't welcome the carnage that may erupt if the EDL had had their march in my backyard
Straight up though; were you HS, would you allow people like those hatespeech charmers to speak here?
 
Yes i would.

And on these two, there is nothing they can do to inflame the situation any further by talking at some thing that only people who agree with their views already are going to be allowed anywhere near. No one knows who they are, even half the edl lot don't know. They are an irrelevance socially and politically and each banning of people like this brings it a step further to being normalised, to the state deciding who you and i may listen to.
 
butchersapron said:
Yes i would.

And on these two, there is nothing they can do to inflame the situation any further by talking at some thing that only people who agree with their views already are going to be allowed anywhere near. No one knows who they are, even half the edl lot don't know. They are an irrelevance socially and politically and each banning of people like this brings it a step further to being normalised, to the state deciding who you and i may listen to.
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Plus making a huge fuss about them gives them credibility that they probably wouldn't have been able to get that quickly on their own.
 
Streathamite said:
actually thinking on it. you have a point. I really, really can't envisage a day when Chomsky would get banned on essentially the same grounds
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Really? People are locked up for anti-war sentiment or posting up pics of burning poppies on twitter. We're way past the stage where banning someone like Chomsky from the country would be an unprecedented outrage.
 
J Ed said:
Same government that just made speaking English a requirement of getting benefits too, and the EDL are loving that.
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The spending review was a vile attack on the vulnerable in a number of ways, but that statement's not quite right from what I heard reported. Attending language lessons is going to be made a requirement, not "speaking English". Not trying to be pedantic - I think it's quite different. Whether it's a good or bad thing depends on how it's implemented. On this government's past form though, the latter looks more likely...
 
Corax said:
The spending review was a vile attack on the vulnerable in a number of ways, but that statement's not quite right from what I heard reported. Attending language lessons is going to be made a requirement, not "speaking English".
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It's a relief that it's posturing rather than actually going to affect people like this, and this is a relief but I don't think it's the last word at all, I can definitely see this government requiring people to pay for ESOL (which they have already cut).
 
J Ed said:
It's a relief that it's posturing rather than actually going to affect people like this, and this is a relief but I don't think it's the last word at all, I can definitely see this government requiring people to pay for ESOL (which they have already cut).
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Yeah, that wouldn't come as much of a surprise at all...
 
Corax said:
The spending review was a vile attack on the vulnerable in a number of ways, but that statement's not quite right from what I heard reported. Attending language lessons is going to be made a requirement, not "speaking English". Not trying to be pedantic - I think it's quite different. Whether it's a good or bad thing depends on how it's implemented. On this government's past form though, the latter looks more likely...
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Which presumably means it is a change that will cost the more money.

I assume that British nationals will not have to take whatever test they come up. So this is actually favouring the bloody foreigners coming over here getting free English lessons of the state.
 
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