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barney_pig said:
I am being snarky, but you are being disingenuous, the script is commonly used throughout islam but in context, when displayed on a black banner it is a jihadist standard. I do not know whether the Muslims you have spoken to are being polite or genuinely do not recognise that it is a jihadist trope, in the same way as an Irish person who is politically involved may recognise the Celtic cross but have no idea of its use as a fascist symbol.
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I'm not being disingenuous, I'm just trying to find out more about it. I mentioned the black banner thing to them and they said that was how it was normally displayed. They may be wrong or disingenuous themselves and you may be totally right but I need to have a decent understanding of it to know what to do next. I live in Sheffield and if I've seen that banner once I'll probably see it again, so I need to be pretty confident of why I need to challenge someone flying it the next time I see it. If it's commmonly understood as an al-Qaeda type banner it needs to be challenged; if most Muslims think its just a standard Islamic flag that makes the whole thing more complex. The Celtic Cross is a good analogy; incidentally I've known one or two Irish people who've had no idea about it. Don't suppose you can link me up to something that can tell me more?
 
just been looking on the FB website, lots of 'ordinary' people on there now offering their services such as one guy who is offering web design, etc likes dr who, enivironmentalism, supports Israel, etc.

well, sort of ordinary, so are they becoming slowly 'mainstream'
 
treelover said:
just been looking on the FB website, lots of 'ordinary' people on there now offering their services such as one guy who is offering web design, etc likes dr who, enivironmentalism, supports Israel, etc.

well, sort of ordinary, so are they becoming slowly 'mainstream'
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I'm lost - what is it about them that makes them 'ordinary people'? The web design or the Doctor Who? :confused:

They've always had 'likes' from all sorts anyhow. A Facebook 'like' is by it's nature done on a whim, and not always given with full information to say the least...
 
FridgeMagnet said:
Let me just stop you there.
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what on earth is the problem can't look at the FB sites, now etc, there was no link, know your enemy

as for the 'ordinary' different than the usual soccer casual, street fighter who go on the demo's, may have always been that way, never use to use it,
 
treelover said:
what on earth is the problem can't look at the FB sites, now etc, there was no link, know your enemy

as for the 'ordinary' different than the usual soccer casual, street fighter who go on the demo's, may have always been that way, never use to use it,
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I'm not a FBer myself, but the screenshots that get posted up around the place have always featured plenty of misguided people that believe the official stance - in amongst the real fash scum.
 
Tommy Robinson has announced that racist scumbags Pam Geller and Robert Spencer will be speaking at Woolwich, will be interesting to see if their visas are refused.
 
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