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G M Police ‏@gmpolice

6h​

We have been notified by the EDL that their protest in Ashton is cancelled. Police will remain in the area to ensure business as usual.

Nick Adderley ‏@CSNickAdderley

5h​

Rumours of 200 EDL in Ashton are untrue. Peaceful protest so far, atmosphere fine, 50 protesters.

Biggest street movement

 

[J Ed]

This is doing the rounds on social media

 

[Corax]

The truth, Wilshaw said, was that non-selective state schools had a more demanding role than their counterparts in the independent sector, which he appeared to suggest were soft in comparison.
"Comprehensive schools have a more difficult job. They are teaching the most able children as well as the least able. They are teaching children from a diverse range of backgrounds. They are teaching youngsters who could come from difficult backgrounds. They have more behavioural issues in the state sector.

We should recruit teachers that don't have as many behavioural issues.

 

[ddraig]

would a school really send that out? and stating 'asian men' ??

 

[Corax]

would a school really send that out? and stating 'asian men' ??

Of course they would. And they'd robustly defend the description as well. Think of the children etc.

 

[J Ed]

There are no other similar photos on social media, just that one, so it may not be genuine. The EDL constantly leadership make shit up, the Ashton Under Lyne incident wasn't racist, but Tommy Robinson tried to get the young woman who was attacked to say it was.

 

[butchersapron]

So the thing here is? Corax has me on ignore, so i'll ask craig? The issue here is?

 

[Frances Lengel]

would a school really send that out? and stating 'asian men' ??

Why wouldn't they?

 

[ddraig]

it was just a question, i've no kids and have never seen any note like this so just asking
was thinking they'd need some proof surely? (whatever the reported race was before anyone starts)

 

[Frances Lengel]

it was just a question, i've no kids and have never seen any note like this so just asking
was thinking they'd need some proof surely? (whatever the reported race was before anyone starts)

No, I've seen schools send letters like that out. They don't need proof to say "We've had reports of.."

 

[ddraig]

ok thanks

 

[brogdale]

I read the article and got a different impression

Wilshaw is preparing to kickstart his second national debate of the month, when he gives a speech on Thursday which he said would discuss "what we need to do as a nation to address the needs of our poorest children, most of whom reside in white British populations. It is an issue that can only be tackled by central government, taking very clear and decisive action on this. and


The truth, Wilshaw said, was that non-selective state schools had a more demanding role than their counterparts in the independent sector, which he appeared to suggest were soft in comparison.
"Comprehensive schools have a more difficult job. They are teaching the most able children as well as the least able. They are teaching children from a diverse range of backgrounds. They are teaching youngsters who could come from difficult backgrounds. They have more behavioural issues in the state sector.

Like alot of tory education policy-talk, Wilshaw's words are couched in terms of social mobility, equality and opportunity, but as we all know that's just bollocks. It is not credible for capitalist lackey politicos to accelerate widening inequality and impoverishment of the working class, and then tell state school teachers it is their responsibility to 'narrow the gap'. As for blaming 'failing' schools for EDL support; that's beyond contempt.

 

[J Ed]

This is doing the rounds on social media

Exact same text used here

 

[BlackArab]

Like alot of tory education policy-talk, Wilshaw's words are couched in terms of social mobility, equality and opportunity, but as we all know that's just bollocks. It is not credible for capitalist lackey politicos to accelerate widening inequality and impoverishment of the working class, and then tell state school teachers it is their responsibility to 'narrow the gap'. As for blaming 'failing' schools for EDL support; that's beyond contempt.

Can't argue you with what your saying but there is a wider issue that needs to be looked at with education policies from Ministerial level down. And yep I share your scepticism on whether the state actually wishes real change. Unfortunately through my professional role I see a little evidence of it.

 

[legz]

Normally, any kind of incident sent out by a school to parents of this nature, is also known to police, surely?

South Yorks Police website shows nothing related to this.

It does mention the 'demo' on Fargate this afternoon, however. British Movement???

I was in Sheffield city centre today around that time, not too far from Fargate. Lots of leafletters out and about anyway from various groups, like there usually is. Didn't notice a fash presence, or even much of a police presence. Not heard anything mentioned elsewhere, either. Must have blinked and missed it

 

[J Ed]

Normally, any kind of incident sent out by a school to parents of this nature, is also known to police, surely?

Yeah, it seems to be bullshit.

 

[treelover]

Apparently not....according to Gove's bully-boy...



The daily tirade of invective against the teaching profession takes a new turn....

Wilshaw is a placeman, put in especially by the Tories, event the Limp Dems objected to him being chosen for the post.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Normally, any kind of incident sent out by a school to parents of this nature, is also known to police, surely?

South Yorks Police website shows nothing related to this.

It does mention the 'demo' on Fargate this afternoon, however. British Movement???

I was in Sheffield city centre today around that time, not too far from Fargate. Lots of leafletters out and about anyway from various groups, like there usually is. Didn't notice a fash presence, or even much of a police presence. Not heard anything mentioned elsewhere, either. Must have blinked and missed it

It can't have been long-got a text asking for back up and by the time I got there it was all over. Leaflets were horrible though, and they were genuine BM.

 

[treelover]

http://news.sky.com/story/1104229/police-officer-stabbed-in-mosque-attack

Sky News is reporting four people stabbed including a police officer inside a Mosque in Birmingam and a man has been arrested, the other media doesn't seem to be reporting it, I hope its some sort of M/H issue, bad as that is, as it is only a few weeks before the EDL demo as well.

its breaking on other media, fucking hell its all awful...

 

[SpackleFrog]

http://news.sky.com/story/1104229/police-officer-stabbed-in-mosque-attack

Sky News is reporting four people stabbed including a police officer inside a Mosque in Birmingam and a man has been arrested, the other media doesn't seem to be reporting it, I hope its some sort of M/H issue, bad as that is, as it is only a few weeks before the EDL demo as well.

its breaking on other media, fucking hell its all awful...

I know what you mean, but in terms of political fall out probably the best that you can hope for is that the attacker was heavily involved in the EDL and has a swastika tattooed on his face.

This is not good at all far too many nasty incidents seemingly linked to the murder of Lee Rugby. The whole country feels like dry kindling at the moment.

 

[Ranbay]

Eyewitnesses report that a man of Somali appearance began attacking worshippers with a machete.

According to Mr Shafiq, a nearby resident believed the dispute was a domestic incident between members.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-22924456

 

[malatesta32]

 

[malatesta32]

Report on ashton EDL do.

6-7 edl in cuffs or pulled in by the cops and pictured most - police reported 4 arrests. The march had about 100-150 in it, lots of young uns & new faces that could be locals, 3 biker divvies; nwi/nwa/edl/bnp faces there. diddyfiddler was hiding from the limelight for some reason but was snapped. 3-4 firecrackers let off in the direction of itv cameramen. There were 80-100 other patriot types not marching but on the sidelines watching. There were no speeches by edl - cops could not liase with the key ashton leader according to tamside edl.cops said they did not know which way edl planned to leave the protest site then they took the decision to lead them back to the station, pen them and then let them go i dribs and drabs. The 20 or so that came into the station via the tram were from Leeds edl and included the blonde woman gail speights mate who seemed to become a leader of sorts. There were a couple of american flags, the jewish one, nwi some local edl ones but although edl lgbt tommy was there he did not bring his gay pride flag for some reason! Oh there were a number of babies in buggies with silly mothers marching too as well as a couple of blokes that couldnt keep their hands away from their dicks.

 

[malatesta32]

 

[malatesta32]

 

[butchersapron]

I know what you mean, but in terms of political fall out probably the best that you can hope for is that the attacker was heavily involved in the EDL and has a swastika tattooed on his face.

This is not good at all far too many nasty incidents seemingly linked to the murder of Lee Rugby. The whole country feels like dry kindling at the moment.

Why would that be politically good? That would be the absolute worst thing surely - precisely because of what you go on to point out in your second paragraph.

 

[Sweet FA]

would a school really send that out? and stating 'asian men' ??

Yup, it's on the Bradfield School website as an 'urgent update.' The woman whose name's on the Hillsborough school letter is the Child Protection Liaison Officer for the school so it seems legit.

 

[butchersapron]

He's on the politics show with the neil in a bit.

 

[cdg]

He's on the politics show with the neil in a bit.

Was on my way to post that.

 

[Dogsauce]

Doesn't say anything about the religion of the alleged school lurkers, does it?

The fact they are of 'Asian appearance' is apparently enough for Mr Yaxley-Lennon.


'Not racist' my arse.