EDL watch

[Ranbay]

Marsh spends a lot of time in Cardiff for someone who lives in Spain now.

 

[malatesta32]

marsh is a bullshitter, casuals united are just him and 2 girls, kylie and chardonnay. why anyone bothers with the fat twat i dunno.

 

[cesare]

well one of these days we are going to get it together and challenge that assumption!

Don't do that!

 

[Firky]

And the prize for the emptiest threat ever goes to "turban campaign".

Where is the threat and why did you use quotations? Bit odd.

The Turban Campaign is an independent unaffiliated initiative that seeks to challenge negative perceptions of the Sikh community through collective efforts and strategic campaigning. We also incubate and support campaigns that provide progressive political action, that delivers equality and social justice.

 

[malatesta32]

Don't do that!

i wasnt, i cant be arsed.

 

[cesare]

i wasnt, i cant be arsed.

 

[bignose1]

joel titus was on the receiving end of racist abuse and backed out after being nicked, guramit been accused of borrowing cash and never paying it back, abdul the glaswegian loyalist is very confused. marsh's book are shite. his local welsh firm consider him a joke. there have never been any 'proper firms' involved EDL.

Aint too welcome up in Manchesters red side either.

 

[malatesta32]

apparently not. he is fuck all.

 

[protesticals]

Where is the threat and why did you use quotations? Bit odd.

The supposed threat is that the man in question will be expelled from Sikhism. The only real threat is that a couple of people will make a complaint and nothing will happen.

Quotation marks should have used one and not two. Just to indicate that this a named group .

 

[protesticals]

removed due to double post

 

[Ranbay]

you can say that again.

 

[Firky]

I am going to take a wild guess and say you're not a Sikh. I am not either but being excommunicated from Sikhism would be a pretty big deal if you're a Sikh I am assuming. I'll ask one of my mates on Facebook if it's a big deal.

 

[bignose1]

apparently not. he is fuck all.

Quite right

 

[Corax]

I just posted up the a link to a video that is circulating across the web but mostly on EDL/far right sites about an alleged attack by Asian youths on white youth in Ashton, ting it could be a gang fight, but the point was the EDL supporters would believe it, you can't hide from the web anymore and the left has to get that



who deleted my post and why?

update, the EDL/TR have called a demo there, shit stirring...

Finally we get to hear what really happened in Ashton from the kids the #EDL are using to justify tomorrow's demo pic.twitter.com/Xas08V2MiY

 

[bignose1]

marsh is a bullshitter, casuals united are just him and 2 girls, kylie and chardonnay. why anyone bothers with the fat twat i dunno.

Somebody said he'd mallowed a bit

 

[bignose1]

 

[bignose1]

Last night I dreamt I saved Griffins life. He was trapped by jihadists after a rally and I got him away. We became friends and went on holiday but he eventually shot me with a spear gun.

 

[bignose1]

Thats cheese on toast at half eleven at night for you...!

 

[Anudder Oik]

Dadaists used to eat cheese on toast before going to bed and look what they produced;

Yes, pictures of Nick Griffin before he was even born.

 

[Dogsauce]

he didn't come across well but made a point about who his real audience was, not the primarily middle class students, etc in the F/S audience, but the white working class

that is who he was aiming at, but as usual he got flustered.

That's exactly the sort of thing he needs to be challenged on - I don't get why 'radical Islam' is solely or mainly a WC issue - what does he actually mean by this? Does it affect WC communities more? Are WC concerns/impacts being neglected relative to other social groups. Anybody have a clue what he means by this?

I don't actually understand what the EDL is trying to achieve relative to their stated aims - are their actions likely to result in less Islamic fundamentalism, or more? What do they actually want done about it? If it's government policy, why aren't protests targeted at the government rather than selected cities? Marching on Islamic communities and shouting islamaphobic abuse at anyone brown is counterproductive to de-radicalising Islamist youth, surely?

Unless, y'know, this isn't just about 'radical Islam' and is something a bit broader...

 

[SpackleFrog]

Hello all.

I've seen one or two comments from Yaxley-Lennon about how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were really bad and have caused division in Britain, been meaning to do some digging on it. Anyone seen anything similar?

I remain convinced that a lot of this stuff is directly related to the failure of the anti-war movement back in the early 2000's.

 

[brogdale]

Hello all.

I've seen one or two comments from Yaxley-Lennon about how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were really bad and have caused division in Britain, been meaning to do some digging on it. Anyone seen anything similar?

I remain convinced that a lot of this stuff is directly related to the failure of the anti-war movement back in the early 2000's.

Apparently not....according to Gove's bully-boy...

Failure by Britain's comprehensive schools risks fuelling the drift by jobless and unskilled groups toward extremist organisations such as the English Defence League, the government's chief inspector of schools, Sir Michael Wilshaw, has warned.
The consequences of underachievement in state schools are a grave moral and political danger, as well as an economic failure, Wilshaw said in an interview...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/jun/14/failure-schools-edl-michael-wilshaw

The daily tirade of invective against the teaching profession takes a new turn....

 

[J Ed]

Apparently not....according to Gove's bully-boy...



The daily tirade of invective against the teaching profession takes a new turn....

It's a good one. So you don't want comprehensives to be taken over and turned into academies run by American multinationals, what are you, a racist?

 

[J Ed]

EDL protest on Fargate in Sheffield right now apparently.

 

[belboid]

EDL protest on Fargate in Sheffield right now apparently.

NF I heard - moved on and put on a train by police

 

[Delroy Booth]

I wonder what Sir Michael Wilshaw thinks about Michael Gove's Celsius 7/7, a sub Andrew Gilligan style attempt to cash in on anti-muslim hatred in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks and make a name for himself as the Tory who really hates Muslims in his all-consuming desire to be Prime Minister. I wonder if that sort of thing might be more to blame for fuelling the EDL perhaps?

EDIT: I've read the thing and it's awful, I daresay it was ghost-written, but just for shits and giggles here's some of the reviews I've found:

This really is too bad to waste words on. Before reading this offal, perform a supraorbital lobotomy, pickle your frontal lobes, puree them unspiced, and then pour back in through your upper eyelids. Now you have entered the bizzare, racist, ranting, imbecility of Gove's mindset. And this man has something to do with UK policy ... it couldn't have happened without Murdoch.

Thee nastiest book I have read for many years. Full of poisonous prejudices, historical howlers and axe-grinding. Really astonishing and alarming that this man is in charge of UK school education

Clearly Gove has no idea what he's talking about in this book. The book is thinly disguised anti-Arab propaganda from a man who is a Tory MP - he personfies who ignorant "Middle England" has become. The book is a manifesto, not an investigation or historical work.

Please don't buy this rubbish, instead get Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower" and found out the difference between a real investigative journalist and not this talentless, Tory hack.

Utter tripe. Interesting to see claims that he has hardly visited a Muslim country or sought anyone of who is genuinely knowledgeable on the subject. Rather like he is proceeding with his 'project' on our education system, ignoring the voices of those with real expertise in his attempt to lead us bravely back to the 1950's. Gove is a very intelligent man. Unfortunately he thinks this means he does not need to listen to anyone else. He will wreck our education. He will do more harm to this country's children than a thousand terrorists.

 

[J Ed]

NF I heard - moved on and put on a train by police

Do you know what it's about? My friend says there have been rumours about attempts at grooming (I can't stand the way this word is used but prior to a crime being committed I can't think of a better one) outside Sheffield schools.

 

[belboid]

Do you know what it's about? My friend says there have been rumours about attempts at grooming (I can't stand the way this word is used but prior to a crime being committed I can't think of a better one) outside Sheffield schools.

That sounds like a bollocks excuse to me, I'd imagine it was just making a point after the last couple of weeks.

 

[andysays]

I wonder what Sir Michael Wilshaw thinks about Michael Gove's Celsius 7/7, a sub Andrew Gilligan style attempt to cash in on anti-muslim hatred in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks and make a name for himself as the Tory who really hates Muslims in his all-consuming desire to be Prime Minister. I wonder if that sort of thing might be more to blame for fuelling the EDL perhaps?

Gove junior's imagination appears to be more active than his ability to construct a realistic narrative, though I suspect this is based more on following examples of the political thriller genre than genuine creativity. Of little value as either English Composition, Historical analysis or Political persuasion. Michael must realise that while this sort of thing may suffice at Key Stage 3, now that he is soon to complete his GCSE work, a far higher standard is required

 

[BlackArab]

Apparently not....according to Gove's bully-boy...



The daily tirade of invective against the teaching profession takes a new turn....

I read the article and got a different impression

Wilshaw is preparing to kickstart his second national debate of the month, when he gives a speech on Thursday which he said would discuss "what we need to do as a nation to address the needs of our poorest children, most of whom reside in white British populations. It is an issue that can only be tackled by central government, taking very clear and decisive action on this. and


The truth, Wilshaw said, was that non-selective state schools had a more demanding role than their counterparts in the independent sector, which he appeared to suggest were soft in comparison.
"Comprehensive schools have a more difficult job. They are teaching the most able children as well as the least able. They are teaching children from a diverse range of backgrounds. They are teaching youngsters who could come from difficult backgrounds. They have more behavioural issues in the state sector.