EDL watch

[Quartz]

He actually posted this. He really did.

And first they came for the Nazis. And I did not speak out because I was not a Nazi? A slight simplification but that's basically what you're saying.

Or, "At first they came for the gays. And I did not speak up for the gays, because I was not gay." Or, "At first they came for the little girls. And I did not speak up for the little girls because I was not a little girl."

It is really hard to allow people to speak evil. Really hard. Really, really hard. But it also allows us to know them for the idiots and monsters they are. Because once they've said it, we can call them on it.

 

[Streathamite]

It is really hard to allow people to speak evil. Really hard. Really, really hard. But it also allows us to know them for the idiots and monsters they are. Because once they've said it, we can call them on it.

But that is precisely what anti-fash groups do. The OB uphold - to the death - their right to march and spout their bile - we who oppose, then oppose, call them on it, challenge them.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Or, "At first they came for the gays. And I did not speak up for the gays, because I was not gay." Or, "At first they came for the little girls. And I did not speak up for the little girls because I was not a little girl."

It is really hard to allow people to speak evil. Really hard. Really, really hard. But it also allows us to know them for the idiots and monsters they are. Because once they've said it, we can call them on it.

Jesus Christ. You're an utter fucking plonker. When do we decide they do need silencing? When they're provoking pogroms against Muslims? Before that? At what stage do you draw the line.

Actually, don't bother answering that - you've already taken the naive liberal stupidity levels on thread well beyond the levels recommended by EU health and safety guidelines so many more posts from you and we could have a nasty accident on our hands.

 

[SpineyNorman]

And that's aside from the fucking horendous and insulting implication made by Quartz that silencing the fash is in any way equivalent to, or even comparable to, silencing gays and little girls. This is where this wet liberal nonsense leads you to.

I suggest Quartz reads this excellent series of posts by Limerick Red over on the Laurie Penny thread.

 

[ddraig]

But that is precisely what anti-fash groups do. The OB uphold - to the death - their right to march and spout their bile - we who oppose, then oppose, call them on it, challenge them.

this this THIS

 

[Pickman's model]

Or, "At first they came for the gays. And I did not speak up for the gays, because I was not gay." Or, "At first they came for the little girls. And I did not speak up for the little girls because I was not a little girl."

It is really hard to allow people to speak evil. Really hard. Really, really hard. But it also allows us to know them for the idiots and monsters they are. Because once they've said it, we can call them on it.

the voice of the liberal twat ^^

 

[Pickman's model]

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a fine contribution

 

[SpineyNorman]

the voice of the liberal twat ^^

Makes the 'I would die for your right to say it' part of their favourite quote quite apt though. Anyone who takes 'free speech' for the far right as an absolute and unquestionable principle risks doing exactly that.

 

[treelover]

The Left should mobilise against religious extremism as well as the far right

Anti-fascists who happily march against the BNP or EDL rarely show that level of commitment against Anjem Choudhary’s group. Why?

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...se-against-religious-extremism-well-far-right

Its by Sunny Hundal, not too popular on here

 

[Citizen66]

Because they're irrelevent.

 

[J Ed]

Its by Sunny Hundal, not too popular on here

I don't agree with everything (or most things) he has to say but he is spot on here

 

[J Ed]

Some Sheffield Labour Student people are saying that the police are going to cordon off a walkway for the EDL to come and lay a wreath on Saturday at their Sheffield national demo. With Labour councillors' blessing apparently.

 

[treelover]

The LP councillors on the local radio were adamant they would 'stop the EDL' maybe others.

 

[chilango]

What I don't get about liberals espousing this freedom of speech stuff is how can you defend a "right" that doesn't actually exist?

You'd have to be living in one hell of a bubble to actually believe that any of us have "freedom of speech" in any meaningful sense.

 

[belboid]

Some Sheffield Labour Student people are saying that the police are going to cordon off a walkway for the EDL to come and lay a wreath on Saturday at their Sheffield national demo. With Labour councillors' blessing apparently.

we could stop them last saturday largely because we had already got an agreement to be at the war memorial (for the bedroom tax demo). Frankly there was never any chance they would let us block the EDL two weeks running. Labour will be all for it (with maybe one or two token councillors voicing opposition). So far the only Labour voice I've heard has been worrying about his shop.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Leaving this here. If from experience you think you may not like it, you know what not to do.

http://whoistherealracists.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/muslamics-continue-trechary-ways/

 

[SpineyNorman]

we could stop them last saturday largely because we had already got an agreement to be at the war memorial (for the bedroom tax demo). Frankly there was never any chance they would let us block the EDL two weeks running. Labour will be all for it (with maybe one or two token councillors voicing opposition). So far the only Labour voice I've heard has been worrying about his shop.

Sandwich shop?

 

[Citizen66]

A mosque has been attacked in North London.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Leaving this here. If from experience you think you may not like it, you know what not to do.

http://whoistherealracists.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/muslamics-continue-trechary-ways/

Bit desperate.

 

[SpineyNorman]

A mosque has been attacked in North London.

Where've you got that from mate?

 

[Citizen66]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...ebomb-attack-is-woolwich-revenge-8645356.html

 

[belboid]

Sandwich shop?

that's the beggar

 

[belboid]

Leaving this here. If from experience you think you may not like it, you know what not to do.

http://whoistherealracists.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/muslamics-continue-trechary-ways/

why did you bother?

 

[SpineyNorman]

that's the beggar

his bacon rolls are pretty good tbf

 

[treelover]

Police were also called to the Bomber Command memorial in Green Park where graffiti demanded that the killers of drummer Rigby should be hanged. It was also defaced a week ago when the word Islam was spray painted on a wall.

what an idiot, this will cost the trust even more.

 

[chilango]

Leaving this here. If from experience you think you may not like it, you know what not to do.

http://whoistherealracists.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/muslamics-continue-trechary-ways/

It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife

 

[butchersapron]

Leaving this here. If from experience you think you may not like it, you know what not to do.

http://whoistherealracists.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/muslamics-continue-trechary-ways/

Yeah, we saw you on lib-com pretending this rubbish was "very popular" the other day. We saw you.

 

[Ranbay]

How's the allotment Bob?

Good thanks, last year was a wash out, but this year is looking good so far

 

[J Ed]

Sandwich shop?

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local...fence-league-plans-sheffield-return-1-5734940

 

[belboid]

his bacon rolls are pretty good tbf

I'll bear that in mind!

btw, you heard owt about the Jinnah Restaurant (in Ecclesfield) fire actually being the result of arson? Someone told me it had happened just after a bunch of kids had been wandering around chanting EDL, and put two and two together, but I'm not sure how wild her imagination is