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what's the point with the fb/twitter screengrabs?

Added interest from an original source that I normally wouldn't believe if someone told me so. Specific reference; 'kicked out of Job Centre for wearing EDL tat top. Wasn't kicked out clearly, but was probably informed that her EDL top could be seen as offensive to other customers and asked to leave etc, etc. If only Angel had chosen to wear a "paki nija [sic] suit" and then there wouldn't have been a problem.
 
Ooooh, one of the ones in Sheffield lives right in the middle of one of the areas with the biggest Muslim populations, [....] I think he may be moving house before too long :D

Bear in mind that the list is supposedly quite old (leaked previously) and there's a reasonable chance people won't live at the addresses quoted anymore, especially given people are more and more mobile thesedays due to all kinds of pressures. A good chance of any retribution hitting the wrong target, or hitting the innocent parents of a teenager led into the EDL by friends, which is out of order.

I don't really like the idea of these lists coming out and what it can entail, as the same techniques can work the other way (Redwatch etc.) - yet at the same time know it throws a bit of a spanner in their organisation and sows a bit of chaos, which is useful (certainly harmed the BNP quite a bit, at least any image of competancy) - and is also a deterrant to fundraising and membership. It won't however defeat the attitudes behind racism - some of the motivation for EDL types comes from feeling 'victimised', and this plays right into their hands.
 
Bear in mind that the list is supposedly quite old (leaked previously) and there's a reasonable chance people won't live at the addresses quoted anymore, especially given people are more and more mobile thesedays due to all kinds of pressures. A good chance of any retribution hitting the wrong target, or hitting the innocent parents of a teenager led into the EDL by friends, which is out of order.

I don't really like the idea of these lists coming out and what it can entail, as the same techniques can work the other way (Redwatch etc.) - yet at the same time know it throws a bit of a spanner in their organisation and sows a bit of chaos, which is useful (certainly harmed the BNP quite a bit, at least any image of competancy) - and is also a deterrant to fundraising and membership. It won't however defeat the attitudes behind racism - some of the motivation for EDL types comes from feeling 'victimised', and this plays right into their hands.

I'm not advocating it - it's not going to do anyone any good beyond a bit of personal satisfaction for whoever carries it out anyway - I'm just predicting it might happen. And if you read the next post I made on this thread after the one you quoted you'll see that I prefer a different approach, one that does have the potential to cut across the drivers for their support that you mention.
 
i knows
anyway fwiw i have seen bob in the flesh out in the street when the cunts came to our city and he brought others with him as well

not that he needs to justify himself


Well we have to argue over something? :D

Can't speak for angel obvs but I think the criticism is based around pushing particular stereotypes of the edl as a form of anti-fascism. It might be amusing, to some, but not much else.
 
Looks all very cuddly and controlled. Lennon's probably has had some time to study and reflect while he's been away, with perhaps some specialised, extra-curricular teaching to guide him? Wonder how his forthcoming appearance in court will turn out?
 
Why do you feel uneasy? I used to live in Bethnal Green.
I think this boils down to how people see community cohesion etc. Being a white person from a largely white town, it's easy to recognise that the normalcy a white person would anticipate in their environment and the shock when it's not there. It's further compounded because cities, where most migrants live, tend to breed the worst in people. Gangs, mental illnesses, homelessness etc.

If anything I tend to find that the population of London is so transient, and so messed about by market forces, that people can't be too picky about where they live and it's much less segregated than the North West. The problems there are much worse.
 
from Bones blog, some people are delusional on here if they can't realise that to some the EDL is becoming almost respectable.

And this sort of thing sends out a strong media message from the EDL - "we're not racists really just hate the killers - UK Islam sort your house out"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-22689552

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And this sort of thing sends out a strong media message from the EDL - "we're not racists really just hate the killers - UK Islam sort your house out.

It's a message that the state will not tolerate and crack down hard on those who either promote, or carry out communal violence of any kind, including the neo-fascists, who have reportedly infiltrated the ranks of the EDL to administrative level. You one?
 
It's a message that the state will not tolerate and crack down hard on those who either promote, or carry out communal violence of any kind, including the neo-fascists, who have reportedly infiltrated the ranks of the EDL to administrative level. You one?

Sorry don't understand your question - one what ?
 
Sorry don't understand your question - one what ?

I think he's asking if you're fash.

I think you've completely misunderstood what he was saying audiotech - he's criticising people who print/pose for those kinds of images because they help the EDL present themselves as only anti-extremists, rather than out and out racists/islamophobes. He's not saying that he actually thinks they're only against extremism.

Not sure where the stuff in your post about the state tolerating/not tolerating extremism comes from though :confused:
 
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