EDL watch

[malatesta32]

Yes, the article does overplay the NWI somewhat.

While the threat of violence should never be ignored, these demos are mainly the work of NF mayoral candidate Peter Tierney and, sacked from the army for burgling houses, Paul Cxf Walsh and a few of his toy soldiers. They are backed up by NWI's John 'Snowy' Shaw and that little creep Shane Calvert (Diddyman) and his loyalist mates in the Scottish Defence League. Joining them are a handful of social misfits and ex-NF and BNP associates who are just happy to be with others of the same mind, who they can giggle and exchange racist jokes with and not be always looking over their shoulders.

Politically it is hard to see them posing any kind of threat as they are virtually incapable of tying their own shoes. They also have no critical analysis of anything they do. They did a rooftop protest somewhere in the NW and Paul Walsh claimed that they had negotiated a live TV interview with the BBC and ITV in return for coming down. Then it was one live radio interview, then a recorded interview and in the end it was nothing. They still claim this 'interview' as 'are voices are gettin herd' and no amount of telling them that no interview was ever broadcast will change their minds. On top of all that Walsh was arrested as soon as he came down from the roof. These people will never interface orally with the media as they are genuinely incapable of talking in coherent sentences. 'Fookin' peedoes raping are white children' is about the extent of it.

So let's not worry too much about them. They are a joke. Let them stand on town hall roofs in the cold with their union flags upside down. While they claim embarrassing defeats as great victories they are going nowhere.

john x

yeah the infidels are tiny. it is snowy and a few soccer lads who arent in prison yet - which has depleted their ranks (mr B, the loser from balckburn). tierney is desperate and doing more harm than good for the NF. cxf are a joke. they're just deluded fuck bugles and phoneys. SDL are bnp/nf types and tiny. 20 at most. they may turn up in the pool but plod was embarassed last time as they failed to do their job - ie, didnt get the march through. the fash are desperate for a victory after the massive embarassment of 250 at bristol 'national' demo and tommy missing the 2nd in a row. the fash may cause a wee bit of bother on the streets but politically they are nothing. on indymedia there is a wee bit of disquiet and they are inflating the ira panic balloons but all antifascists need to be there as a show of strength.

 

[malatesta32]

The thing is, for them, the last time round in Liverpool where they got a march stopped, was seen by them as a victory, therefore, they will be looking to milk that and therefore active security will be necessary for saturday because they are more likely to be lurking in a carpark trying to damage mini vans or pick off stragglers than standing on a roof.

oiks, it wasnt them who stopped it, it was plod who redirected, it not them!

 

[malatesta32]

British Freedom is going nowhere anyway, they are run by nutters.

yeah as taff says the british fluffies will now be regretting it: 'here is a picture of our deputy leader out of his head on whatever and having to have a lie down thus missing yet another national rally.' they only ever had tiny support anyway and the expected influx of EDL did not materialise. politically the far right in UK are nowhere. however, antifascists need to show numbers when they threaten. liverpool is gonna be hard on them if only from plod with whom they have not arranged a formal counter-demo thus giving plod carte blanche to nick anyone getting mouthy or aggressive. the fash will also be massively outnumbered. best thing: march is well stewarded and militants tag along outside.

 

[malatesta32]

from VNN fash site:
'Together we will overwhelm the police and the IRA and Antifascist gimps, trade union traitors, and any local nignogs who latch on to the march from the slums in which they dwell.' and 'The Infidels of Britain and the BPP are mobilising against this IRA front march.'

 

[disco_dave_2000]

Saw this morning lots of posters from march organisers in Hope Street and Toxteth areas of Liverpool - so hopefully added support from locals.

 

[Red Storm]

Apparently the Salford Unemployed Centre has been getting a lot of phone calls over Alec McFadden speaking at the anti-racism march.

 

[albionism]

Anyone got a link to the photo you are talking about?

 

[john x]

British Freedom is going nowhere anyway,

Good to see that you have read the memo Bob!

And Malatesta is right about regrets in the British Freedom Party about this deal. When the idea first came up, the EDL were on a roll but by the time the deal was done, the EDL were on their arse and everyone apart from Tommy Robinson and the BFP could see it. I heard that when the announcement was made and BFP membership was offered at a reduced rate of £15 per year, only 17 people took them up on their offer . And even that dried up when the price went back up. As some wag pointed out, "You can join the NF for £15 and that's without any reduction!"

So no huge influx of new members for the BFP but worse, last year's Demos survey showed that the BNP was the largest supported party among EDL supporters and they certainly made their voices heard when it was suggested that they would be expected to help out BFP candidates at election times, even if they then went on to vote BNP.

So the BFP have got no big membership boost and are lumbered with a PR disaster area in the (badly out of) shape of Tommy Yaxley Robinson Lennon!

A bunch of clueless idiots, the lot of them.

john x

 

[Ranbay]

Mr Woods of the BFP would have you think they have 1000's of members... but he's a fucking dreamer...

 

[malatesta32]

the EDL went a bit nuts at the anouncement as many are quite happy to vote bnp.most had never even heard of the BF and were annoyed about being drafted in as footsoldiers without any discussion or consulation. the price of dictatorship eh? all round a total blunder. edl lost members over it.
http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/its-the-edl-british-fluffies-love-in/
shame!

 

[john x]

heard of the BF

You've read the memo too!

john x

 

[Gingerman]

from VNN fash site:
'Together we will overwhelm the police and the IRA and Antifascist gimps, trade union traitors, and any local nignogs who latch on to the march from the slums in which they dwell.' and 'The Infidels of Britain and the BPP are mobilising against this IRA front march.'

Bunch of ignorant fuckwits ,Liverpool is probably the most 'Irish' of UK cities so lets hope the James Larkin march gets a good turnout.

 

[framed]

Apparently the Salford Unemployed Centre has been getting a lot of phone calls over Alec McFadden speaking at the anti-racism march.

No doubt Alec will write that up for Searchlight...

He's been a regularly featured 'victim' in Searchlight for years; first on Tyneside, now on Merseyside and Thameside. If I'd taken as many beatings off the fash as Alec McFadden allegedly has over the years, I think the penny would've dropped by now that the Searchlight 'highlight the victims of fascism' and 'expose the naaarzeeees' strategy was not working.

 

[john x]

These people are complete lunatics!

 

[DrRingDing]

"Scouse Nationalists"

 

[The39thStep]

Bunch of ignorant fuckwits ,Liverpool is probably the most 'Irish' of UK cities so lets hope the James Larkin march gets a good turnout.

what would make you claim that Liverpool I the most Irish of cities or that if it was that there would be any connection with the James Larkin march?

 

[Gingerman]

"Scouse Nationalists"

 

[Gingerman]

what would make you claim that Liverpool I the most Irish of cities or that if it was that there would be any connection with the James Larkin march?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2011/dec/01/liverpool-ireland
http://www.merseyreporter.com/history/historic/irish-immigration.shtml
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...etween-liverpool-and-ireland-100252-28329638/

 

[framed]

Not so much lunatics as following the well worn path of militant loyalism, which regards all Catholics and Irish nationalists as 'legitimate targets' and IRA associates by default. In my experience this is par for the course with the fash. They're simply applying the same logic to the left.

These people are complete lunatics!

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[bignose1]

No doubt Alec will write that up for Searchlight...

He's been a regularly featured 'victim' in Searchlight for years; first on Tyneside, now on Merseyside and Thameside. If I'd taken as many beatings off the fash as Alec McFadden allegedly has over the years, I think the penny would've dropped by now that the Searchlight 'highlight the victims of fascism' and 'expose the naaarzeeees' strategy was not working.

Ive no time gor McFadden...you may have read why in other posts on here...

 

[john x]

I see Snowy has raised his head after going into hiding after being convicted of letting his animals die of starvation.



john x

 

[bignose1]

No doubt Alec will write that up for Searchlight...

He's been a regularly featured 'victim' in Searchlight for years; first on Tyneside, now on Merseyside and Thameside. If I'd taken as many beatings off the fash as Alec McFadden allegedly has over the years, I think the penny would've dropped by now that the Searchlight 'highlight the victims of fascism' and 'expose the naaarzeeees' strategy was not working.

Thats pretty much an ad verbatim/cut & paste from Redwatch

 

[framed]

Is it? I wouldn't know. It certainly is not a cut and paste job from anywhere. It's based on the truth that McFadden is a long time associate of Searchlight, a pro-state magazine that I do not support and which I believe is counter-productive to the cause of anti-fascism.

Considering how long you claim to have had no involvement with them (18 years at the last count) you can always be depended upon to defend your old colleagues from Searchlight. Funny that innit?

Are you accusing me of being involved with Redwatch?

That's a big smear and pretty low even by your standards.

As for reading about McFadden on your other posts on here, sorry I'll pass on that one, I haven't read them and I don't intend to. Your posts on here are usually highly personalised and hysterical Steve, I skip them.

 

[Delroy Booth]

Why the use of quotation marks around the word "victim" framed? Are you suggesting that the attack on McFadden was faked or something? or unrelated to anti-fascism? Staged by searchlight perhaps?

 

[framed]

No, I used it more to illustrate how Searchlight apply 'victim' status as some kind of badge of honour to their associates. McFadden is Searchlight and his 'victim' status has earned him some kudos in liberal anti-racist circles. My old man used to say, 'Never fear the guy with the scars, because he took second prize'. McFadden's taken a lot of second prizes at the hands of the fash, he'd be the last person that I'd consider to lead me into action against them. Nothing was implied about his honesty, despite the fact that he is closely associated with a magazine that has never exactly been 'straight' when it comes to the cause of anti-fascism.

'Framed'

 

[Delroy Booth]

btw I wasn't trying to have a go or owt, I thought you just might know something that I didn't regarding McFadden.

 

[framed]

No offence taken mate. Thanks for pointing out the ambiguity in my use of quotation marks, it's a bad habit of mine more than anything else... too many years writing for 'fanzines' where grammatical rules and proper use of English rarely apply.

 

[bignose1]

Is it? I wouldn't know. It certainly is not a cut and paste job from anywhere. It's based on the truth that McFadden is a long time associate of Searchlight, a pro-state magazine that I do not support and which I believe is counter-productive to the cause of anti-fascism.

Considering how long you claim to have had no involvement with them (18 years at the last count) you can always be depended upon to defend your old colleagues from Searchlight. Funny that innit?

Are you accusing me of being involved with Redwatch?

That's a big smear and pretty low even by your standards.

As for reading about McFadden on your other posts on here, sorry I'll pass on that one, I haven't read them and I don't intend to. Your posts on here are usually highly personalised and hysterical Steve, I skip them.

Im not defending them at all on this its just your hysterical knee jerk salivating dog reaction eveytime you hear Searchlight...wuff..growl..gnash Boring. You know damn well Im not saying your involved in Redwatch ffs. But you are partial to more than the odd smear yourself. Infact your whole operation depends on that type of stuff. I couldnt give a shit if you dont read my other posts. And as regards your last few lines how the fuck can you attack me for personalising/ hysterics. Thats been yours/Demus/O'sheas MO since I can remember !!!You stick with your gang/crew. I for one think your lazy by what you contribute. Everything you write seems to slag someone/thing off. Your the last person I need to justify myself to. And this hard man image...do me a fucking favour.

 

[Pickman's model]

These people are complete lunatics!

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the organisers should have made more of it being a 'ra march if that's the case

 

[krink]

Listen lads, is there any way you could both just not do this again on here. It's just wank material for the fash lurkers. Everyone here knows the dispute so, haway man, just leave it.

I'm not taking sides, just won't someone think of the children