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Delroy Booth said:
Just saw this from Hope Not Hate. Worth reading. http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/1454/redneck-roundup

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Apparently all the little ex-EDL groupsicles, along with some assorted National Front cranks, started kicking the shit out of each other in a big way in Newcastle today. Rivalries between groups in Yorkshire, Newcastle and Scotland are getting completely out of hand. This pic says it all.
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nice axe
 
of course, shoot the fucking messenger, the point is the response is much less even non exisistent than if it was a right wing group, or is made into a comedy act, the fact that a poster has to be aware that he or she will get flak if they post info like this says a lot about the dismissive attitude to these crazies...
 
dylans said:
Yeah but because it was Muslim fundamentalists we are all cheering and celebrating instead:facepalm:
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no, but you are not responding to these incidents the way you do to other groups, an example, the attacks on the SWP meetings were broadcast to the world, I really shouldn't have to defend my posting this...
 
treelover said:
of course, shoot the fucking messenger, the point is the response is much less even non exisistent than if it was a right wing group, or is made into a comedy act, the fact that a poster has to be aware that he or she will get flak if they post info like this says a lot about the dismissive attitude to these crazies...
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Someone else could post the link and get a considered response, but because it is you - a single minded obsessive compulsive one track manic depressive who never ever responds to "difficult" questions or backs up his positions or offers any serious analysis then you don't, because you don't deserve it.

Change the fucking record Blanquo, loads of people here and further afield are pointing these issues out, whether it's Paul Stott or Ed Husein, or anyone of a hundred others - but it's possible to engage with them, it's not with you, it's not the islamofascists people don't take seriously it's you.
 
@SL ah, the classic Trot tactic, questioning someones mental health is they disagree with them, and where on here are they discussing the rise of militant Islam?

oh, and its more than one track, maybe quad?
 
treelover said:
no, but you are not responding to these incidents the way you do to other groups, an example, the attacks on the SWP meetings were broadcast to the world, I really shouldn't have to defend my posting this...
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ok.

Fucking Islamist scum bastards. I hope the Muslim community run these fucking assholes out of their communities and off the streets. They are a disgrace to every British Muslim and only serve to bring hostility down on minority communities.

Happy now?
 
I haven't started one because i knew the response it would get on here, not apologists but certainly looking the other way...
 
treelover said:
maybe there should be, the behaviour ofthese dangerous fanatics is just as important as that of the EDL

or maybe you don't think it is..
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i agree that it is. i also think they're both basically manifestations of the same thing, of the conditions that lead people to support the far-right. The difference with islamist (a shit term but i can't think of a better one) scum tho is that there really aren't very many active members of islamist groups in the UK and they certainly aren't organised nearly to the same degree as the far right. They don't for example attack left-wing groups or random non-muslim people in the street. What happened to all the groups that we used to hear about a few years ago, Hizb, al-Mujiharoun, etc? we discussed this before on a previous thread, and i asked why, if some of these demos are so important to the islamists, do they only have a handful of people turning up to each one?

it's not that their behaviour isn't "important", but it doesn't have as far-reaching an effect, and certainly doesn't have the potential support base of the british far right (not that the far-right itself in its current form is that relevant tbh!) These people are completely marginalised in their own communities and they will never have the ability here to form a mass party in the way that the fash potentially could. In the Middle East? Different story entirely tbh.
 
frogwoman said:
What form did this "patriotism" take though? Maybe it's just me but my insticnt is "no good can come of this"
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Their logo was the Trojan Records helmet over a union flag, it was all pro-British/monarchy pride, including pride in seventies multi culuralism and trade unionism with commonwealth coloureds up to the seventies welcome, no further immigration except Ghurkhas etc and Muslims knowing their place.
 
Spanky Longhorn said:
Their logo was the Trojan Records helmet over a union flag, it was all pro-British/monarchy pride, including pride in seventies multi culuralism and trade unionism with commonwealth coloureds up to the seventies welcome, no further immigration except Ghurkhas etc and Muslims knowing their place.
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Ah OK :facepalm:
 
Why does Nick Lowles's blog claim 400 to 500 EDl in Birmingham when it was clear they weren't even half that number?
 
'Occupy Newcastle was attacked last night by 20 30 thugs, (who where connected to an Edl demo earlier in the day) bricks where thrown and people where held down and punched/kicked. As far as I know, no one was hospitalised. They need support down there and need it badly, they are rebuilding the camp... which was trashed during the attack... but they need people to get involved today.

They want to come back stronger, help them.'

from FB OLSX posting, is it correct, any more info?
 
who are you? a board policeman?, this thread has thousands of posts, why should it have one less because you don't like my line of thought...
 
It was attacked by thirty to forty rightwingers last night according to their Facebook, they didn't claim any allegience or wear any logos according to the occupiers, just seemed to be general racist types, to be honest it is Newcastle city centre on a Saturday night, it sounds like they got off lightly.
 
treelover said:
who are you? a board policeman?, this thread has thousands of posts, why should it have one less because you don't like my line of thought...
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ffs it was a suggestion with a '?' at the end
your demand for confirmation and more info without looking yourself is more annoying tbh
 
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