Corax
Luke 5:16
I dunno, they made one about fucking facebook....
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
More concerned about Robbie and his penchant for announcing that he is a Mackem to Newcastle supporters
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
I've heard it. It's a lot of old bollox using nearly the same reasons as last time (Islam4UK evangelising in city centre/11yo conversion which was condemned by Muslim Council of Britain;
Tommy Liar Robinson said:
I'll have to check back to see what placards EDL were holding in Brum the last time, but the Muslim Council of Britain did condemn the conversion by Choudary and it was widely publicised at the time, well before EDL went to Brum.
Defamation of religion at most, at least, complete and utter misrepresentative bollox. I'm all for questioning religion directly (go Spinoza) but this crap isn't even true. EL are promoting Sabaditch-Wolff who was prosecuted and convicted of defamation of religion for saying the same thing as Yaxely-Lennon Robinson is now saying. Sabaditch-Wolff recently was made Dame for defaming religion of Islam by some far-right crypto-fascist Christian templar 'order' based in USA. More here on that group from Barthsnotes: http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/20...sabeth-sabaditsch-wolff-into-chivalric-order/
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
Yup, very disturbing. They've been happily posing with the cops for smiley-love-in pictures too. I've since heard that their fluffy approach to edl etc has now been ironed out and won't be happeing again which is a start I suppose...
News also that there will be 100 edl from the north east and as far afield as Leeds in Newcastle on saturday to attack an anti-islamophobia event that some liberal lefties are putting on. It's timed for around midday if anyone is in the area and would like to have a look.
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
after realising that their plan to not obey plod will probably end in a kicking, they have now done a humiliating climbdown and have announced that they will do what mr plod tells them to do lol
they are a bit fucked here, whilst they may attract the less hard core to the demo, those that want a ruck are going to be well pissed off.
http://twitpic.com/767wxg
they are a bit fucked here, whilst they may attract the less hard core to the demo, those that want a ruck are going to be well pissed off.
http://twitpic.com/767wxg
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
yeah the infidels are in pole position really if tommy is jailed and the numbers are down on saturday. whether they have the organisational skills is one thing, but they have pissed off a lot of people down south, like the tommy loyalists, so this may be harder to do. there was always a bit of a 'terrace fashion' feel to the edl - as witnessed by muslamic raygun bloke who didnt know why he was there - like sherlock hats and manchester united being invincible. a very silly game indeed!
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
from liverpool EDL re: ocuupy.
The vast majority of these Anarchists are students or ex Students, the same students who received THOUSANDS of pounds funded by the tax payer YOU! So your paying your fees to see Buses and Transport delayed, weddings cancelled and a logistic nightmare. All by the same people funded by UNITE the Union, praised in socialist media and consider it justice to URINATE on Police officers who have simply been sent to do their job.'
£1,000s? really? usual bullocks from clueless eejits!
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
I don't think EDL members are in a strong position to discuss urination or respect for historic/religious buildings in the same sentence.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
surely students would be NUS not Unite?
EDL! get your unions right! lol
EDL! get your unions right! lol
Corax
Luke 5:16
I keep coming back to the idea of a leftist version of the EDL.
All that energy and anger - surely it must be possible to put it to better use? These are the kids that left-wing actions have been founded on in the past. They're working class, and pissed off.
Is it possible to have "left-wing patriotism"? What would it look like?
I would start a thread on it, but I'm pretty sure that certain posters would just use it to ridicule and sneer, and wave their intellects and superior knowledge around so that everyone can see how clever they are. Frankly, I'd rather not have the conflict. Maybe someone with a better knowledge of political history and theory than me could start the discussion.
All that energy and anger - surely it must be possible to put it to better use? These are the kids that left-wing actions have been founded on in the past. They're working class, and pissed off.
Is it possible to have "left-wing patriotism"? What would it look like?
I would start a thread on it, but I'm pretty sure that certain posters would just use it to ridicule and sneer, and wave their intellects and superior knowledge around so that everyone can see how clever they are. Frankly, I'd rather not have the conflict. Maybe someone with a better knowledge of political history and theory than me could start the discussion.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Patriotism like anti-war activist Pete Seeger who sang 'Bring 'em home' from a patriot pov? (our boys getting killed)
or Patriotism like pro-war activists EDL? Who wrongly frame all Muslims as 'the enemy' and commit vigilante acts against British Muslims on home ground.
or Patriotism like pro-war activists EDL? Who wrongly frame all Muslims as 'the enemy' and commit vigilante acts against British Muslims on home ground.
Corax
Luke 5:16
lol
I'm not sure what. Just some way of channeling all that justified anger at how close their horizons are, into something more useful than shouting about 'muzzies'.
Corax
Luke 5:16
I don't hold with patriotism at all really, personally speaking. Countries are a nonsense. But 'pride' in being English is clearly something that floats a lot of people's boats. They've already been conditioned by the English myth - is there a way of subverting that?
BigTom
Well-Known Member
EDL demo in Birmingham has apparently caused the British Legion to delay the launch of their poppy appeal (which was supposed to be in Birmingham apparently)!:
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/edl-cause-rbl-to-cancel-poppy-appeal-launch
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/edl-cause-rbl-to-cancel-poppy-appeal-launch
john x
Well-Known Member
900 tops
Mind you, as with the Tower Hamlets fiasco, they are starting to run out of pubs that will serve them.
Revolution Bar, Broad Street B15 1BL 0121 665 6508218
O'Neill's Bar 0121 616 1623
are the latest two proposals for meet up points.
john x
jakethesnake
In bed for Britain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmg-k1BR6U Something like this?
Ranbay
The same rules apply
Cheers for the info, i dont agree with all this "ring the pub shite" i would rather everyone knew where they where.
john x
Well-Known Member
One of the major reasons they are getting less and less people to their pub crawls is that they are finding it harder to find somewhere to drink and it's really pissing a lot of them off.
john x
The anti Islamophobia event in Newcastle has been postponed, because the orgasnisers didn't want to put city centre shoppers and the many families invited at the risk of the threatened violence.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
yeah but the ones that go you wont know where they are, and i dont agree with stopping people having a pint racist or not. knowing where they are is handy
As Norman Tebbit pointed out when he tried to say the BNP were left wing, there have been plenty of patriotic and nationalistic left wing regimes. And what about the number of national liberation movements that were led by the left? That was a form of patriotism. So, too, the Communist-led partisan movements in Yugoslavia and elsewhere during WW2. And there was a strong patriotic element to governments like that of Allende.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Interesting as there was some EDL- type stuff going around a few months back about the legion not being able to sell poppies in brum town centre because of muslim objections. Turned out it was because they got their pitch application in late,and another charity gave them theirs anyway. Now the EDL have stopped this poppy menace.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
That's sad
john x
Well-Known Member
yeah but the ones that go you wont know where they are, and i dont agree with stopping people having a pint racist or not. knowing where they are is handy
If stopping them having a pint means they lose interest in attending these do's then it's fine by me. Also the more they drink the braver they get and the more likely they are to go on the attack.
And we'll know where they are because the cops will have them surrounded from the coach drop-off points and New St railway station.
john x
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
same as in the early zionist movements and the early governments in Israel, interestingly enough. And in the USSR.
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