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google Liam Wood i think he's the guy that runs it, and possibly the only member.
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google Liam Wood i think he's the guy that runs it, and possibly the only member.
Fozzie Bear
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No rush - are you going to be at Cafe OTO on Sunday?
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MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
Indeed I shall be! (got my ticket this week)
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
It made it to the nationals eventually when the case against two men came to trial in 2007, but the main focus seems to have been the suppression of an internal police report on child sex abuse in Blackpool, which apparently is the favourite spot for sex offenders to move to
Blackpool was always a hotspot (since the 80s to my knowledge) for sex abuse because it's a favourite destination for runaways.Both the BNP and the EDL have been agitating in Blackpool - BNP handing out leaflets, and trying to garner votes on the day of the last EDL demo in South Shore. There's a BNPtv video of the BNP leaflet men and women being moved on.
One of the original suspects (34 yr old) has now been jailed for 20 weeks after headbutting 18 yr old girlfriend in the street: http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/news/9094908.Blackburn_man_jailed_for_attack_on_girl/
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
There are others - one of them, Raymond Berry - was involved in the East End Pride committee and directly responsible for that falling flat this year after Imaan, Rainbow Hamlets and Tatchell withdrew support.
http://whitechapelanarchistgroup.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/the-plot-thickens-east-end-gay-pride-edl-links-confirmed/
It was originally set up by 'Joe Bloggs' who also set up the original JDiv around the same time. Joe Bloggs also used the name 'Homo Sapiens' on the old EDL forum. He has a penchant for Evola:
http://twitpic.com/2d2sqt
SpineyNorman
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As the pot said to the kettle. "The left... *foam*... Muslims... *rant*"
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
dunno if this is up already but its glasgow abdul asking wanye baldwin - he of massive swastika chest tattoo - if he is racist. then wayne going no, then err yeah. then abdul has to be escorted away looking somewhat confused. the poor dear! 2 minutes in!
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/derek-fender-corner/abdul-dalaams-pr-disaster
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/derek-fender-corner/abdul-dalaams-pr-disaster
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
love this thread about notts coach.
http://twitpic.com/6i6lml
they go from being attacked by 50 to 100 to 300 'muslims' in the space of a few seconds. what actually happened was that joanne dickens was having another wee - this time in the proper place - then she stuck her head out of the door, so frightened the counterdemo that they all ran forward and tried to shove her back in the bus. and no jokes about back ends of busses either please.
http://twitpic.com/6i6lml
they go from being attacked by 50 to 100 to 300 'muslims' in the space of a few seconds. what actually happened was that joanne dickens was having another wee - this time in the proper place - then she stuck her head out of the door, so frightened the counterdemo that they all ran forward and tried to shove her back in the bus. and no jokes about back ends of busses either please.
john x
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I suspect that was because the suspects in her disappearance were not white. If they were white or not known, she would have remained a non-household name missing kid.
john x
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
http://twitpic.com/6ia2qx - Joanne Dickens posts info about two blokes who laughed at her misfortune, which she got from Redwatch, (who describe her as 'comrade')
See VeryNastyNaziForum for proof.
'“There was also hostility from a minority of Muslims who were part of the anti-EDL demonstration, including attempts to snatch and rip my placard. These fanatics mostly objected to the slogan: “Gays & Muslims UNITE! Stop the EDL”. I was surrounded several times throughout the day by angry Muslim youths who ordered me: “You must remove this placard…You can’t walk here with these words…We don’t allow gays in this area…Gays are not permitted here…We don’t have gays in Tower Hamlets.”
http://www.petertatchell.net/politics/tatchell-gets-muslim-hostility-&-support-at-anti-edl-demo.htm
Did anyone see any of these encounters?
http://www.petertatchell.net/politics/tatchell-gets-muslim-hostility-&-support-at-anti-edl-demo.htm
Did anyone see any of these encounters?
SpineyNorman
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Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Have you got the url for the fake SWP/Hamas foto yet?
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Chris Knowles, come on down!
We (the vast left wing conspiracy) were humming and haah-ing about our lack of concrete proof that Aeneas Lavinium, of Center for Vigilant(e) Freedom (now International Civil Liberties Alliance) was Chris Knowles - a CVF director, but lol of all lols, he tripped himself up with a bad link to his C:/ drive from one of his 'Sir Tommy's European Tour' articles over on ICLA:
We (the vast left wing conspiracy) were humming and haah-ing about our lack of concrete proof that Aeneas Lavinium, of Center for Vigilant(e) Freedom (now International Civil Liberties Alliance) was Chris Knowles - a CVF director, but lol of all lols, he tripped himself up with a bad link to his C:/ drive from one of his 'Sir Tommy's European Tour' articles over on ICLA:
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
These "problems" strike me as exagerated and it is doubtful if militiant islam is any more a threat to our way of life than quite a few other forms of militancy, especially militant neoliberalism and imperialist militarism.
Sharia Law: Not imposed. Christmas: not banned. Lots of buildings: Not turned into mosques. Non muslims: Not killed en masse.
Much islamaphobia is paranoid garbage with not a small amount of racism thrown in (the religious hate being the mask for the race hate)
As someone of unorthodox and non aligned faith I have many issues with Islam and it's propagation (as I do with Christianity). What do I do about it? Guess what? I discuss my issues with muslims. What a novel idea when so many people just go on Facebook to spout ignorant bollocks and cast around generalistic assumptions which are very often flat-out wrong.
And how do Muslims react? Do they kill me? I don't think I have been killed even once by a muslim. No they are, without fail, polite and patient regardless of disagreements. Their views are no more whack, superstitious or conservative than many Christians in this country a generation ago or even now.
People do discuss and address the issues. Endlessly. Often not very constructively. Little is swept under the carpet, the airwaves and internet are rammed with people whinging that they are not allowed to say what they think either just before or after having said it. Paranoid, deluded, myth making, martyr complexes - by coincidence or not these are common traits in fascist psychology
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Where's the url that showed SWP and Hamas together, again? You know, the one you linked to with EDL founder Paul Ray posing with Guns in 2006 in the West Bank.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
I think we have been engaging with the substantive issues. It's looking highly likely that EDL was astroturfed by the Center for Vigilant Freedom.
So do something useful and provide the url where you got the fake SWP meets Hamas photograph from.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
lovely line! 'i don't think'! totally agree with this taffy! islam is not the point it is EDL using it as a reason to attack asian folk and coming from outside and trying to march thru areas where they are neither from nor welcome. where was the tower hamlets EDL division? answer: there isnt one! so whats theire fecken beef if they dont live there? they still think cos we oppose EDL we support islam. they havent a fecken clue!
josef1878
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Bad bad fuckin joke then.
listen, taffboy,. i have a friend from my STW days, Muslim, etc he tried to set up a liberal Muslim network and in his own words 'got a lot of grief' and in his own words he said ''he rejected the Saudi Wahibi version which has been imported here and which belongs in the 16th C''.
SpineyNorman
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Stop press - this just in - ultra-conservative Muslims have ultra-conservative views and aren't shy about letting everyone know.
In other news, the BNP are racist and treelover is a boring cunt who parrots EDL lies about the left without even checking the facts.
You daft twat.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
The word you are reaching for is "shill" comrade. Tatchell said he got hassled by a small number of muslims and supported by many more. As for your mate, I'm sure he did get some hassle from reactionaries. Reactionaries existing in any faith group is no great shocker. But I honestly don't think Wahibi-ism has made great inroads into our culture. Happy to be contradicted by evidence and such.
What did you make of the recent survey showing that UK muslims are happier with the generally tolerant attitudes on LGBT issues than the average Brit?
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/06/27/uk-muslims-prouder-of-gay-rights-than-christians/
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Interesting link, if we aint already had it, about EDL/Redwatch connection.
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/the-edl-and-redwatch
Appears substantial enough to be another solid nail in the coffin of the apologist/denialist line that the EDL is not part of the general mix of very nasty far right groups.
http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/the-edl-and-redwatch
Appears substantial enough to be another solid nail in the coffin of the apologist/denialist line that the EDL is not part of the general mix of very nasty far right groups.
Red Storm
M14
I thought it was common knowledge that EDL types were the ones that regenerated Redwatch. It was the UAF Hunting Club, who now have a banner along with Blood and Honour on the main page, that started it back up. Them along with Salford BNP organiser Gary Tumulty, who is responsible for the North West, Salford and Mancheter Reds sections, along with a few other posts.
Redwatch is a little scary but in reality it's nothing more than an anoyance. There has been a few things come from it which aren't nice however.
I've spoken to Anonymous and they've said it's "in their sights" but they've had trouble with the number of servers it uses. I think they could bring it down if they put their full resources into it, I doubt that would happen however
Redwatch is a little scary but in reality it's nothing more than an anoyance. There has been a few things come from it which aren't nice however.
I've spoken to Anonymous and they've said it's "in their sights" but they've had trouble with the number of servers it uses. I think they could bring it down if they put their full resources into it, I doubt that would happen however
SpineyNorman
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I'm not talking about Tatchell, I'm talking about the EDL propaganda about the SWP and Hamas. Have you remembered where you got it from yet?
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