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Which is an interesting example of user interface design, i.e. restricting a user's ability to perform a function (in this case, fire hundreds of bullets continuously) with the consequence of definitely avoiding a worse outcome (overheating and stopping firing altogether). So in many ways the Bren gun was an early iPhone.

no, not really
 
Well they seem to be ready for Tower Hamlets......

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There was no problem with the bren vis rpm as this isn't an issue in lmgs: short bursts at specific targets to surpress enemy fire. The mp34 and 40 also had magazines when used in this role. I am concerned at the ready acceptance that German equipment was superior, in every field this just was not the case, in tanks early war the German tanks were inferior to Czech designs, the panzer 38, a Czech tank appropriated by the basis after their takeover in 1938 was by far their best tank, and both French and British models were far better armoured and designed. Later in the war the t34 set a design standard that the Germans were never able to better. In in infantry weapons, the m1 garand and lee enfield short were far better rifles than the old 98 model rifle that most German soldiers were issued.
 
The difference in success imo was a mixture of political and strategic factors, many of the allied powers, especially France, were more afraid of a repeat of the social revolutions that marked the end of ww1, than the enemy and sat in purely defensive positions, whilst attempting to minimise the opportunities for rebellion,ie not issuing ammunition to troops. British tank strategy placed them in purely support roles-the armour of a vickers or a Matilda mk1 were impervious to any shells the Germans cod chuck at them, and yet they were armed with machine guns.
German tactics, blitzkrieg, wasn't even German but lifted wholesale from soviet tactics of the 1920s.
 
pfft eveyone knows that how you fight of the muzzies... it's like kryptonite to them init!

The thing is, the majority of Muslims I know are not offended by someone eating bacon or drinking beer. They are not baited by the EDL using such things to insult them either. Such activities just underline the fact that they are really immature in their approach. It's like being faced with a kind that sticks it's tongue out at you.
 
'The thing is, the majority of Muslims I know are not offended by someone eating bacon or drinking beer.'

surely no one should be, unless its in the home and the person has been invited
 
There was no problem with the bren vis rpm as this isn't an issue in lmgs: short bursts at specific targets to surpress enemy fire. The mp34 and 40 also had magazines when used in this role. I am concerned at the ready acceptance that German equipment was superior, in every field this just was not the case, in tanks early war the German tanks were inferior to Czech designs, the panzer 38, a Czech tank appropriated by the basis after their takeover in 1938 was by far their best tank, and both French and British models were far better armoured and designed. Later in the war the t34 set a design standard that the Germans were never able to better. In in infantry weapons, the m1 garand and lee enfield short were far better rifles than the old 98 model rifle that most German soldiers were issued.

On British tanks, I have only one name to speak: Mathilda. Good armour, under-powered engine and fuck-all fire-power. Abandoned in droves on the retreat to Dunkirk.

better armour is meaningless if you can't deploy properly because your tank is powered by the equivalent of a 150cc Lambretta motor. :)
 
http://www.facebook.com/notes/engli...e-tower-hamlets-demonstration/253124138055445

Police Set Conditions for the Tower Hamlets Demonstration


Perhaps we should just be happy that we're allowed to demonstrate at all!

First, the Home Secretary prevented us from marching, and now we find that the EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets this Saturday will face further complications.

Until very recently, we had agreed with the police that the muster point before the demonstration would be Hainault Underground Station. We would then have taken the tube to Liverpool Street Station, and from there we would have walked to Tower Hamlets.

What no one thought to consider was the possibility that the RMT (The National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers) might get wind of our plans and threaten to close stations by calling on their members to go on strike.

We're not sure that having to transport people to a demonstration is really a legitimate reason for industrial action, but the threat has been enough for the police to cave in to the pressure and abandon the previous plan. As a result, we've been left to make our own arrangements as far as the muster point is concerned.

Location details are as follows.

This applies to everyone using any method of transport.

Please muster at the following public houses

The Euston Flyer, 83-87 Euston Road, London, NW1 2RA

ONeills 73-77, Euston Rd, London, NW1 2QS

At 2pm we will make our way to the demo point so if you are not at one of the above you won’t be going.

Please do make sure you arrive in plenty of time, as we do not know what restrictions may be placed on travel shortly before the demonstration.

Please can we also ask that you bring your own refreshments, as although there are a few pubs in the area, it's going to be difficult enough keeping everyone together.

Once we have gathered at the muster point we will then be escorted by police, in groups of 200-300, to Tower Hamlets and the site of the static demonstration.

However, we have today received a warning from the police that until we reach the demonstration site, we will not be allowed to raise our flags or banners, and that anyone doing so will be removed from the area.

It should go without saying that this is absolutely ridiculous, and we're not certain that the police will actually enforce this rule on the day. As far as we understand it, the decision was made a senior officer in the Met, and is not well-supported by the police, who believe that it could turn the demonstration into a logistical nightmare.

But, until you hear otherwise from either a police officer or an EDL steward, please abide by these instructions. We are certainly not happy about this clear violation of our right to peaceful protest, but we would rather everyone reached the demonstration site than saw people ejected early on.

We understand that the police have received intelligence that there are small number of people in the Muslim community in Tower Hamlets who are already trying to incite violence, but surely the police effort should be focused on deterring would-be criminals rather than on restricting our right to protest?

Although the UAF have also been prevented from holding a march, they are thought to be holding a counter-demonstration nearby. From previous demonstrations we expect them to try and aggravate and provoke EDL supporters. Please can we remind everyone that any trouble would detract from the important reasons why we will be in Tower Hamlets.

There have been numerous newspaper articles recently that have been highly critical of the UAF - highlighting that their arrest figures are often far higher than ours, and rubbishing their claims that they are fighting 'fascism'. This one deserves a special mention. If people are ever going to stop believing some of the baseless accusations spread by the UAF, then this support is crucial. Let's not do anything to jeopardise it.

This demonstration was always going to come with conditions, but we are disappointed that senior figures in the Met seem to be more interested in playing politics than they are ensuring that the demonstration is a well-organised, peaceful affair.

We are also disappointed that the RMT is apparently so opposed to protests against the spread of radical Islam that it would instruct its members to strike in order to sabotage our plans. Despite this, we are looking forward to a successful demonstration.

But we wish to make it very clear now: if we are prevented from flying flags and displaying banners then we will return to Tower Hamlets on 22nd October.

We will have our demonstration, and our voices will be heard.

No surrender.
 
On British tanks, I have only one name to speak: Mathilda. Good armour, under-powered engine and fuck-all fire-power. Abandoned in droves on the retreat to Dunkirk.

better armour is meaningless if you can't deploy properly because your tank is powered by the equivalent of a 150cc Lambretta motor. :)
nothing wrong with a lambretta
 
Numbers are all over twitter for both pubs ..... If the had any sense they would only sell soft drinks
 
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