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If this event fails and its likely to, the EDL may collapse, but maybe there will be new formations, perhaps a lot more subtle, but ultimately more successful and with broader support.

and all these police tactics can be used on the left in the future
 
yes and that is happening already and often does with such organisations and sects where there is too much testosterone and wannabe leaders
 
It seems that Roberta Moore is going to turn up at Tower Hamlets with Lena and her motley gang of Norwegian Defence League Nazis. Most EDL members want to kill Moore so it should be interesting
 
yr right DDraig. the edl have splintered into NWI, NEI, and CfX, as well as that big clootie billy bunter baker's crap ENA. like the 'political' groups, ukip, British freedom fluffies etc, there are too many leaders and not enough footsoldiers. it seems the renegade EDLers hate tommy cos he gets all the publicity and cash. the nazis, altho they attend the demos (see shirtfront website) hate the zionist aspect as well as their 'multicultural racism' stance. and as 'malatesta' has pointed many times out these are mainly vanity operations. the EDL phenomenon is their rapid escalation but their downfall is that they have fuck all strategies, no manifesto or programme and are exposed time and again for their lies and their refusal to speak to moderate muslims shows that they have no one who can argue coherently. watching tommy on sky with smug git adam boulton was illustrative of this. he cannot control his temper and comes across as a twat. speaking of bill baker, they are having a march tomorrow but arent all marches banned?
 
it's not in the city of London is it, and there will be about 10-20 of them is my guess.

ta bob. i think it was west of the city or something. he didnt turn up to last weeks british patriots society you know after organising it! will he show this time!
 
on facebook they are still full of bluster: we go where we want, when we want. when they clearly dont. they are also worried about finding a space to park. dont worry, they can use the park the demo will be in!
 
Bill 'ENA Sharples' Baker has just had a massive fallout with CxF (last night) so is should be interesting in Westminster tomorrow as well
 
bare in mind most will come from up north

Yeah?

Coaches from Stoke, Liverpool and Rochdale are cancelled.

Huddersfield, Halifax, Hull, Dewsbury and Bradford are struggling to fill enough seats to pay the deposit on their buses!

John X

English Defence League - London Region
Tomorrows weather will be a mixture of cloud and sunshine, top temperatures of 25. In the Islamic State of Tower Hamlets it will be hot, hot, hot. Sun block, a hat and a big St. George Flag is advisable.
 
Interesting story here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/02/english-defence-league-muslims-police
"If you want to understand why the police are not to be relied upon when dealing with the far right, this story offers part of the answer:

Scotland Yard has been accused of underestimating the threat from the English Defence League (EDL) after the head of the unit monitoring hate groups declared it was not an extremist organisation.
In an email obtained by the Guardian, Adrian Tudway, National Co-ordinator for Domestic Extremism, said he formed the view the EDL were not extreme after reading their website. :facepalm:
Today the EDL, accused by Muslims of fostering hate against them, will stage a "static" demonstration in Tower Hamlets, east London, in one of their most potentially provocative displays so far.
The Metropolitan police obtained a ban against a planned march through east London by the EDL, fearing clashes with anti-fascist groups and also the prospect of British Muslim youths taking to the streets to defend their communities against feared racist attacks.
British Muslims have claimed police have not done enough to protect them against the EDL.
In an email sent on 27 April 2011, Tudway told a Muslim group they should try opening up a "line of dialogue" with the EDL, who have been accused of staging attacks and directing hostility at British Muslims.
Tudway wrote: "In terms of the position with EDL, the original stance stands, they are not extreme right wing as a group, indeed if you look at their published material on their web-site, they are actively moving away from the right and violence with their mission statement etc.
"As we discussed last time we met, I really think you need to open a direct line of dialogue with them, that might be the best way to engage them and re-direct their activity?" :rolleyes: "
 
tbh the flying scotsman's been a right wing favourite for years so there's not much point letting them know they're going to be playing unwilling host to the edl.

i'm disappointed that you feel the need to take up the temperance cudgel from rutita1.

How about you fuck off being oh so dramatically negative about what I think and what I suggest and actually do something or suggest something yourself?
 
If this event fails and its likely to, the EDL may collapse, but maybe there will be new formations, perhaps a lot more subtle, but ultimately more successful and with broader support.

and all these police tactics can be used on the left in the future

I suspect it won't be a success, but the true faithful have probably put up with worse (Blackburn and the St Georges day FB takedown) - more a dribbling away to an even smaller rabble than a total collapse. New formations? yes. No reason to think they would be more successful at this juncture. It takes a lot of factors and a favourable wind.
 
bare in mind most will come from up north and be drinking and snorting on the coach all the way down to London...... so they will be well oiled before they even get off the coach.

EDIT - didn't read the last post, but yeah that's what most people do...

Thing is if you are tanked up on booze or charlied up and then have to go on a long wonder, well the energy levels soon drop don't they?
 
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