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just a quick point: your post says that the germans used the m60 in the war. the germans used the mg39 and mg42 (both 7.92mm) in the war, the m60 is a 7.62mm american general purpose machine gun used most famously in vietnam.
The Germans still use an updated version of the MG42 chambered for 7.62 NATO, called the MG3. Excellent piece of kit, and probably one of the better LMGs in the field, especially given the ease of barrel change.
 
The Germans still use an updated version of the MG42 chambered for 7.62 NATO, called the MG3. Excellent piece of kit, and probably one of the better LMGs in the field, especially given the ease of barrel change.
i suppose if you've millions of mg42s lying about you can't just chuck them away, a quick fix to the standard nato round (as was) and away you go. a bit like the old ss camo gear they wear.
 
is the term schmeisser kosher? i have never seen it used anywhere else apart from old war comics (where also the words 'schweinhund', 'achtung' and 'aieee!' were routinely employed). i went to an arms fayre - purely for research, i wasnt dressing up! - and they all referred to it as an MP40.

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It's colloquially a Schmeisser (and called that by a generation of German troops) even though Hugo Schmeisser didn't design it, but rather the MP18 (manufactured by the Swedes as the Bergmann smg) from which most of the firing mechanism of the MP40 was derived.
 
The Germans still use an updated version of the MG42 chambered for 7.62 NATO, called the MG3. Excellent piece of kit, and probably one of the better LMGs in the field, especially given the ease of barrel change.

amazing how many lefties are knowledgable about this kind of stuff. i heard alexei sayle is a bit of a gun expert too.
 
i suppose if you've millions of mg42s lying about you can't just chuck them away, a quick fix to the standard nato round (as was) and away you go. a bit like the old ss camo gear they wear.

i suppose if you've millions of mg42s lying about you can't just chuck them away, a quick fix to the standard nato round (as was) and away you go. a bit like the old ss camo gear they wear.

Be a bit daft, wouldn't it? Okay, they'd have to machine new barrels, bolts and chambers, but the furniture and the skeleton of the guns wouldn't need changing.
 
amazing how many lefties are knowledgable about this kind of stuff. i heard alexei sayle is a bit of a gun expert too.

Unlike Alexei, though, my knowledge wasn't born of some high-minded effort to find the best weapon for a neck-shot, but from prostituting myself to her on the throne. :(
 
Be a bit daft, wouldn't it? Okay, they'd have to machine new barrels, bolts and chambers, but the furniture and the skeleton of the guns wouldn't need changing.

the correct term for this stuff (so my mate who deals in this stuff says) is a 'de-ac' or deactivated weapon. there is quite the trade on redoing them and making them work again. something to do with the firing pin. by the way this is 'malatestas' new sponsor
http://www.gunsandammo.com/
soon to be called 'malatesterone'
 
perhaps we need a new thread on nazi stuff that lefties think is cool!

The Nazis were cunts, but because Germany arguably had the best military architects, technicians and designers for the first half of the 20th century, they also produced some superbly functional yet amazingly well-designed pieces of kit, whereas the British, the Soviets and even the Yanks mostly produced stuff that was "good enough" until into the 1950s.
 
Unlike Alexei, though, my knowledge wasn't born of some high-minded effort to find the best weapon for a neck-shot, but from prostituting myself to her on the throne. :(

i am not sure why he was particularly fixated by them but hacky psychoanalysis wd say communist parents, nazi taboo, blah blah. you aint in the Combined exFarcicals by any chance are you panda?
 
The Nazis were cunts, but because Germany arguably had the best military architects, technicians and designers for the first half of the 20th century, they also produced some superbly functional yet amazingly well-designed pieces of kit, whereas the British, the Soviets and even the Yanks mostly produced stuff that was "good enough" until into the 1950s.

agreed, aesthetically, materially and numerically speaking very superior materiel. however, why did they wera such crap boots? they look like leather wellies! i tried some on once and they were horrible.
 
Have had quite a giggle at those last few posts. Boys will be boys. Watchng people struggle with the idea that german industrial design was years ahead of the allies. It was their politics that sucked at the end of the day but unfortunately not their hardware. Hence the millions of american troops who couldn't collect enough of the stuff to ship back to the states.

Also, there was no MG39, I think he meant the MG34. I actually have a deac 34 in my house, A collector's piece captured on the russian front. An Incredibly aesthetic piece and remember, many were used against the nazis once captured. Luvly...800 bullets a minute. Much better than a Bren.

Anyway, that's enough of Dad's army for now. Been skimming decadantly over a few EDL faceaches and there isn't much about Tower Hamlets, seems a bit strange and I sense a lack of enthusiasm. They don't seem to be pushing it like previous events.

From EDL Warrington Facebook;

Michael Thepout Powell
Any news on whats happening next sat yet like where we getting coach from and what time lads ???

El Domingo a las 4:49 · Me gusta · Comentar


    • English Defence League Warrington Division dnt knw whats happnin yet m8 loads of nobs bookin seats and not paying so we cnt even afford the transport at the min, we need more ppl first come first served
      Saturday 5:13
PS, anyone know where I can pick up a cheap 1945 Meschersmitt jet fusilage?
 
Luvly...800 bullets a minute. Much better than a Bren.

Anyway, that's enough of Dad's army for now. Been skimming decadantly over a few EDL faceaches and there isn't much about Tower Hamlets, seems a bit strange and I sense a lack of enthusiasm. They don't seem to be pushing it like previous events.

From EDL Warrington Facebook;

Michael Thepout Powell
Any news on whats happening next sat yet like where we getting coach from and what time lads ???

El Domingo a las 4:49 · Me gusta · Comentar


    • English Defence League Warrington Division dnt knw whats happnin yet m8 loads of nobs bookin seats and not paying so we cnt even afford the transport at the min, we need more ppl first come first served
      Saturday 5:13
PS, anyone know where I can pick up a cheap 1945 Meschersmitt jet fusilage?[/quote]

a certain generation of boys - who indeed, will always be boys - were bought up on the likes of victor, battle, warlord, 2000ad etc and god knows how many films (all of which shirtfront and vnn posters will claim to be revisionist) many of which fetishised nazi aesthetics. i also thought the bren gun epitomised the utilitarian and lumpy design of much british materiel. but enough already with the dad's or rather boy's army! tower hamlets is turning into more of a face saving escapade and they are getting worried over numbers. its costly for them to get there. thanks for all the responses!
 
Luvly...800 bullets a minute. Much better than a Bren.

Anyway, that's enough of Dad's army for now. Been skimming decadantly over a few EDL faceaches and there isn't much about Tower Hamlets, seems a bit strange and I sense a lack of enthusiasm. They don't seem to be pushing it like previous events.

From EDL Warrington Facebook;

Michael Thepout Powell
Any news on whats happening next sat yet like where we getting coach from and what time lads ???

El Domingo a las 4:49 · Me gusta · Comentar


    • English Defence League Warrington Division dnt knw whats happnin yet m8 loads of nobs bookin seats and not paying so we cnt even afford the transport at the min, we need more ppl first come first served
      Saturday 5:13
PS, anyone know where I can pick up a cheap 1945 Meschersmitt jet fusilage?

a certain generation of boys - who indeed, will always be boys - were bought up on the likes of victor, battle, warlord, 2000ad etc and god knows how many films (all of which shirtfront and vnn posters will claim to be revisionist) many of which fetishised nazi aesthetics. i also thought the bren gun epitomised the utilitarian and lumpy design of much british materiel. but enough already with the dad's or rather boy's army! tower hamlets is turning into more of a face saving escapade and they are getting worried over numbers. its costly for them to get there. thanks for all the responses!

Bren gun was a Czech gun, designed in Brno and manufactured under licence at Enfield hence the name. :)
Also a great design. Being mag-fed it had an advantage over it's belt-fed brothers, which was that it was hard to put enough ammo through it in a continuous stream to overheat the barrel (a common problem with belt-fed MGs).
 
i hear the edl are having their get-together on saturday in the sainsbury's car park. which i can't imagine will go down too well with sainsbury's or their customers.
 
cant believe the way this thread is going. this is the consequence of inadequate research! however VP, surely the bren magazine limited RPM unlike the vickers, maxims etc.
 
Don't worry I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell you what you can and can't post about on the internet. :rolleyes:
 
I see the 30 day no march ban has been extended to the City of London as of Friday - which is the same day that Cleaners currently involved in a pay & conditions dispute with their ultimate employer the Corporation of London, were due to hold a rally & demonstration at the Guildhall in the City of London
 
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