EDL watch

[Ranbay]

two cops each

 

[malatesta32]

two cops each

when they had their do at Leicester there were 1,600 plod turned out from 12 different forces which worked out at 2 each! it still kicked off tho and leicester plod should be well embarassed! eejits.

 

[Pickman's model]

Dave Hill says that the the Met's application to ban the march has been successful
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/davehi...ice-apply-to-prohibit-edl-tower-hamlets-march

just a technical point: he says nothing of the sort.

The campaign to have a march planned by the English Defence League through one of London's most ethnically-diverse boroughs banned looks to have been successful. The Metropolitan Police has announced that it is "in the process of applying to the Home Secretary for authority to prohibit a march in five London boroughs for a period of thirty days." It will be effective from 2 September. More details of the application are promised later, including the names of the boroughs affected, one of which is undoubtedly Tower Hamlets. The application, which is highly unlikely to be turned down, applies to all marches [with some exceptions: see my update below] in the boroughs concerned, including a planned counter-march against the EDL.

 

[nino_savatte]

just a technical point: he says nothing of the sort.

He updated that blog after I'd posted the link. But he did say

The campaign to have a march planned by the English Defence League through one of London's most ethnically-diverse boroughs banned looks to have been successful.

 

[Pickman's model]

He updated that blog after I'd posted the link.

he didn't say it yesterday afternoon and he doesn't say it now. he said they'd applied to have it banned, and as of this morning no decision's been taken by the home secretary.

 

[nino_savatte]

he didn't say it yesterday afternoon and he doesn't say it now. he said they'd applied to have it banned, and as of this morning no decision's been taken by the home secretary.

That may be the case but he said that it "looks to have been successful".

 

[Ranbay]

Tommy back in court today to appeal his £50 fine for a kung fu kick to the poppy burners last November..... bloody two tier system init, how come you can't kung fu kick people FFS!

 

[Pickman's model]

That may be the case but he said that it "looks to have been successful".

is that the same as what you said, that it had been successful? no? well, there you go then.

 

[nino_savatte]

I forget, you're a nitpicker. I'll have to watch myself in future.

The application, which is highly unlikely to be turned down, applies to all marches

 

[Pickman's model]

I forget, you're a nitpicker. I'll have to watch myself in future.

i forgot you couldn't tell the difference between something being applied for and something happening. you'll have to be watched in future.

 

[nino_savatte]

i forgot you couldn't tell the difference between something being applied for and something happening. you'll have to be watched in future.

The application, which is highly unlikely to be turned down, applies to all marches

"Unlikely to be turned down". We'll see, eh?

 

[Pickman's model]

"Unlikely to be turned down". We'll see, eh?

again, this is rather different to 'has been successful'.

 

[revlon]

Tommy back in court today to appeal his £50 fine for a kung fu kick to the poppy burners last November..... bloody two tier system init, how come you can't kung fu kick people FFS!

doing an eric

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/norway-police-explore-several-breivik-links/

 

[Corax]

A couple of years ago I opined that the BNP were dead and buried and no longer needed to be considered a threat. That opinion was dismissed out of hand by a number of posters, accompanied by some accusations of not being politically/socially aware enough to voice such an opinion. These bordered on sneering in tone, that peculiar brand of snobbery that's one of the less appealing aspects of the left.

Dare I risk it again with the EDL?

 

[Pickman's model]

A couple of years ago I opined that the BNP were dead and buried and no longer needed to be considered a threat. That opinion was dismissed out of hand by a number of posters, accompanied by some accusations of not being politically/socially aware enough to voice such an opinion. These bordered on sneering in tone, that peculiar brand of snobbery that's one of the less appealing aspects of the left.

Dare I risk it again with the EDL?

two years ago you were wrong about the bnp, although you'd be broadly right now. that is not to say that bnp members do not pose a threat: some clearly do. the slow death of the bnp is likely to see a load of new nationalist / fascist groupings emerging, with groups like the english democrats already doing nicely out of the bnp's slow demise and new organisations like paul golding's britain first! trying to attract people out of the bnp. somehow britain first! seem to have got hold of an old bnp mailing list -- i wonder how many urbanites are receiving golding's spam.

the edl on the other hand is a bit of a nationalist bumblebee, in that its internal contradictions mean it should not exist or be able to exist. its internal divisions (i don't mean eg the london division) and the large number of groups like the infidels undermine any real cohesion. indeed, if it hadn't been for the ban i could see the edl's demise being dated from 3 september. there was no conceivable way for the organisation to emerge with credit from the day. now any small turnout or any untoward (from the edl perspective) result can be laid at the door of the met and the government. they have been handed a lifeline. at some point the edl are going to be smashed off the streets. that could have happened this time, and still might. when that happens, chances are that a lot of edl regulars, and even more edl irregulars, are likely to consider their involvement with an organisation which can't in fact cope with serious physical opposition. potential recruits will be dissuaded if they see the possibility, or probability of a twatting, off muslims and others opposed to the edl's incursions.

 

[Fingers]

Well the Plymouth Division were charged today:
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Kelly WATTERSON – aged 28yrs from St Peters Road in Manadon, Plymouth.
1) Racially aggravated affray
2) Racially aggravated common assault by beating

Hayley WELLS – aged 27 from Shell Close, Leigham in Plymouth.
1) Racially aggravated common assault by beating

Michael RAFFERTY – aged 33yrs from Queen Street, Devonport in Plymouth.
1) Obstruct/resist Constable in the execution of his duty

Ricky BURLEY – aged 43yrs from High Street, Stonehouse in Plymouth.
1) Using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour (Contrary to Sec 5 of the Public Order Act)
2) Obstruct/resist Constable in the execution of his duty

All four of the above have Police Bail conditions as follows:

1) Not to go within 100 metres of the Istanbul Kebab Takeaway, Exeter Street, Plymouth.
2) To report to Charles Cross Police Station between 1pm and 2pm on the 28th August 2011 and the 3rd September 2011.
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
That means they are banned from TH

They have organised another meet and greet on Sunday. that will go well then

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

indeed, if it hadn't been for the ban i could see the edl's demise being dated from 3 september. there was no conceivable way for the organisation to emerge with credit from the day

Absolutely, but I would say that the true faithful get over setbacks pretty quickly. Memories like goldfish.
The "big homecomming" in Luton (nearly a year ago?) wasn't all that.

They got bored of the set piece rallies, the fact that Tommy never writes new material doesn't help. So they tried branching out into so-called "flashmobs" and silly stuff like the KFC demos. Damp squibs again.

So 3rd Sept would have been another in a long line, as it happens I think you are right: They will gain succour from their martyr complex but in the medium to long term they are still going nowhere.

As for other far right manifestions, we shall see..aint looked much into this "Britain First" thing.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

From a quick scoot around BF stuff, it is pretty much BNP bilge isn't it?

 

[malatesta32]

FINGERS! thanks for the info. hayley 'dark satanic' mills is still regional organ grinder in plymouth and has been organising a coach to tower hamlets at 25 quid a pop. so she is going to be a bit miffed at the result. rafferty is the 'commander' of the exforces contingent which includes billy' bunter' baker who has had fuck all military experience as far as we can tell. rafferty is also an abysmal writer who can't spell and has a serious allergy to punctuation if his recent statements are anything to go by. tommy disowned the plymouth lot publicly after the kebab-alypse incident but of course they are still best of friends. anyone know what happened at the 'poppygate' trial yesterday yet?

read al about hayley 'trouble at the' mills here:
http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/edl-latest-fiascos-by-‘macmalatesta’/

EDL: NSE or NCP?

 

[claphamboy]

http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/edl-latest-fiascos-by-‘macmalatesta’/

From the link...

they got steaming and ‘stormed’ a kebab shop terrifying the family who run it. Apparently, ‘Muslamic militants’ had been spotted hiding in the taramasalata.

 

[Pickman's model]

FINGERS! thanks for the info. hayley 'dark satanic' mills is still regional organ grinder in plymouth and has been organising a coach to tower hamlets at 25 quid a pop. so she is going to be a bit miffed at the result. rafferty is the 'commander' of the exforces contingent which includes billy' bunter' baker who has had fuck all military experience as far as we can tell. rafferty is also an abysmal writer who can't spell and has a serious allergy to punctuation if his recent statements are anything to go by. tommy disowned the plymouth lot publicly after the kebab-alypse incident but of course they are still best of friends. anyone know what happened at the 'poppygate' trial yesterday yet?

read al about hayley 'trouble at the' mills here:
http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/edl-latest-fiascos-by-‘macmalatesta’/

EDL: NSE or NCP?

ncp - new communist party so i think not.

 

[Fingers]

Picture of Burley wearing a swastika t-shirt

http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/charges-pressed-for-plymouth-attacks

 

[Corax]

read al about hayley 'trouble at the' mills here:

'trouble up top' shurely?

 

[Luther Blissett]

Sing if you're glad
Only when the proposed East End pride march is threatened does Tatchell worry about banning yet another EDL march.
Odd that I can't find any previous objections to previous EDL march bannings from Tatchell. Would be glad to find something though.

Petition to oppose the original petition
You couldn't make this one up: UAF are now whining that their petition (and HnH) has resulted in a blanket ban on all marches.
They're now gathering signatures for another petition protesting the ban on marches that their original petition asked for.

Ban/Proscribe the EDL
Anyone who calls for EDL, as an organisation, to be banned are only going to drive it out of plain sight where it will no doubt ferment something far more dangerous than present. The only response is to meet them in plain sight. Hopefully anti-EDL activists will learn from this current predicament very quickly.

 

[malatesta32]

latest 'Malatesta' piece on Tower Hamlets!

http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/edl-tower-hamlets/

 

[Pickman's model]

latest 'Malatesta' piece on Tower Hamlets!

http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/edl-tower-hamlets/

just a quick point: your post says that the germans used the m60 in the war. the germans used the mg39 and mg42 (both 7.92mm) in the war, the m60 is a 7.62mm american general purpose machine gun used most famously in vietnam.

 

[malatesta32]

just a quick point: your post says that the germans used the m60 in the war. the germans used the mg39 and mg42 (both 7.92mm) in the war, the m60 is a 7.62mm american general purpose machine gun used most famously in vietnam.

you pedantic schweinhund pickmans! we were black affrontit! we of course meant the MP40!
http://www.philaord.com/products/mp40.html

 

[Pickman's model]

you pedantic schweinhund pickmans! we were black affrontit! we of course meant the MP40!
http://www.philaord.com/products/mp40.html

ah! the old schmeisser! jawohl mein herr

 

[malatesta32]

is the term schmeisser kosher? i have never seen it used anywhere else apart from old war comics (where also the words 'schweinhund', 'achtung' and 'aieee!' were routinely employed). i went to an arms fayre - purely for research, i wasnt dressing up! - and they all referred to it as an MP40.

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