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[past caring]

Big "if" though, isn't it?

There's no evidence - other than the word of the Fatboy Dim in the video - that the person or persons being chased were black.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Whatever PC. If this all kicks off into a race war you will not be targeted. I grew up around people like this. I know the mentality well.

 

[juice_terry]

And what if those in Southall and Tottenham defending their areas caught up with an alleged looter and battered them ?

 

[past caring]

Rutita - you are - rightly - prepared to take people to task at unthinking/racist suggestions of the looting/rioting being down to black youth. And yet you have the front to take issue with me when I challenge assumptions that groups made up predominantly of white males are a-priori going to be racist/motivated by racism?

I grew up around people like this, too - in fact I'm one of them. There's racists among them for sure and their racism has to be opposed and stopped from spreading to other young white males - something that isn't made easier by assuming the worst. Unless, of course, you believe that they're already a lost cause.

So "whatever" right back at you.

 

[ddraig]

first off, i haven't accused pc of defending the edl
i am not that thick honest, even though he has called me a cunt
so not a millwall supporter either then

i meant pc was very quick and still is insistently defending the people in the video
i used to live and work around there and remember what it is like, tense and horrible attitudes without any of this shit on top.
and that was before the edl
so that is where i am coming from, for the hypocrisy hunters

 

[butchersapron]

Whatever PC. If this all kicks off into a race war you will not be targeted. I grew up around people like this. I know the mentality well.

Not on. Most of us grew up 'round people like this'. I don't always agree with you Rutita1, but i know that you're on the right side. That post is out of order.

 

[Treacle Toes]

A woman is on the radio (LBC) now, reporting that groups like this have just attacked her son and nephew...going on in more than one place. I care not if they are paid up members of the EDL, same crap.

 

[Belushi]

I used to live around Eltham, some of my family still live in the area. Some of those guys in that clip will be racists, plenty of them wont.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I used to live around Eltham, some of my family still live in the area. Some of those guys in that clip will be racists, plenty of them wont.

I know that.

I worked in Eltham for a couple of summers...Never again...even the White foreign students were not safe and many were beaten up/chased etc during their stay.

 

[past caring]

first off, i haven't accused pc of defending the edl
i am not that thick honest, even though he has called me a cunt
so not a millwall supporter either then

i meant pc was very quick and still is insistently defending the people in the video
i used to live and work around there and remember what it is like, tense and horrible attitudes without any of this shit on top.
and that was before the edl
so that is where i am coming from, for the hypocrisy hunters

Hold on. I've not fucking "defended" anyone. Certainly not the racist cunt in the video who said "they're chasing blacks", certainly not the the very small numbers chanting "EDL" in one of several videos posted. Clearly, for some of you, it's not obvious why I'm doing this, so I'll spell it out - it's to try to counter the assumption/stereotype that they're just going to be racists.

We don't seem to have a problem recognising that if you tell young working class black men often enough that they're worthless scumbag looters and muggers that some of them will turn out like that. Why would the same thing not apply when you tell young working class white men often enough that they're scumbag racists?

p.s. - you're not Millwall - you don't do our humour.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Right here it is, the definitive Eltham video showing how it is. No racists just locals doing the right thing...

Makes you proud...

"All the community's come together, look at our town now, look at Eltham, Eltham hasn't been touched"

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videod...riots-were-doing-the-job-the-police-14827861/

 

[treelover]

'I grew up around people like this. I know the mentality well.'

like this, a whole town, now who is generalising? , i think you are obssessed, you remind me of the identity politics fanatics: race gender, sexuality, etc, i met at Uni and in local politics

 

[treelover]

'so that is where i am coming from, for the hypocrisy hunters'

instead of the witch hunters...

a lot of the WWC are becoming to see the Left as their enemy, a tragedy, imo...

 

[Treacle Toes]

'I grew up around people like this. I know the mentality well.'

like this, a whole town, now who is generalising? , i think you are obssessed, you remind me of the identity politics fanatics: race gender, sexuality, etc, i met at Uni and in local politics

The whole town wasn't on the street, nor chasing people. I don't care what you think. I know what I know and have experienced, get over it.

 

[Treacle Toes]

a lot of the WWC are becoming to see the Left as their enemy, a tragedy, imo...

Perhaps those people you speak of should stop reading and internalising the crap spouted in the right wing press then! They are getting fucked over too.

 

[Corax]

typical liberal hysteria/fear of the white working class combined with the usual patronising of ethnics

armed turks/kurds take to the streets to protect their local businesses - huzzah

armed indians/sikhs take to the streets to protect their temples - huzzah

anarchists take to the streets so erm…they don't feel left out - huzzah

armed (with brushes) middle classes take to the streets to clean them up - huzzah

some white working class types take to the streets to protect their area - UGLY RACISTS!!!!

From what I read there was no trouble in their area, so they marched off to try and find some.

 

[Deareg]

They were trying to get a mob together in one part of Manchester as well, inspired by there London counterparts, on the Manchester footie banter FB page, they seemed to have some kind of paranoia about Ashton bus station windows getting broke! one silly cunt called jordan said he was bringing his sword and was telling his mates "it is blade time" then the owner of the page asked for a list of names of all those who were going. before being informed that it was all a false alarm. silly cunts.

 

[past caring]

From what I read there was no trouble in their area, so they marched off to try and find some.

And where did you read this?

 

[Corax]

And where did you read this?

I can't remember, sorry.

I realise that means it's not necessarily true, that's why I prefixed the statement with "from what I read" rather than posting it as unsubstantiated fact.

 

[Anudder Oik]

An EDL muppet talks to the cameras in Eltham. He's not a local and has parachuted in to "Manage and Control" the locals (his words). I'm sure that attitude went down like a ton of bricks with the locals who were more than competent enough to run their own neighbourhood patrol.

Now, how an (one issue) anti muslim extremist organization fits into all this is anybody's guess. It looks more like a BNP tactic to me.

Anyway, check out this muggy cunt in the video.

 

[treelover]

'An EDL muppet talks to the cameras in Eltham. He's not a local and has parachuted in to "Manage and Control" the locals (his words). I'm sure that attitude went down like a ton of bricks with the locals who were more than competent enough to run their own neighbourhood patrol.'

Bit like the UAF lot then...

 

[spitfire]

A friend of mine lives in enfield and i asked him who was involved in the action, I told him i heard that it might have been the EDL. He said it was mostly local lads and the "THFC lot". He went on to say that there were a couple of people who tried to get "silly" but they were chased off by the locals. By that i took it to mean edl/bnp types. He's no racist by the way. Just a local lad.

 

[Fedayn]

A friend of mine lives in enfield and i asked him who was involved in the action, I told him i heard that it might have been the EDL. He said it was mostly local lads and the "THFC lot". He went on to say that there were a couple of people who tried to get "silly" but they were chased off by the locals. By that i took it to mean edl/bnp types. He's no racist by the way. Just a local lad.

That certainly chimes with the group standing outside one of the boozers which is a well know 'Yid' pub.

 

[Ranbay]

Better version, where they shout at 3 kids on a bus....

 

[skitr]

Better version, where they shout at 3 kids on a bus....

Was just about to post this.

 

[Ranbay]

Funny how both videos tell a diffrent story

 

[Luther Blissett]

 

[_angel_]

Funny how both videos tell a diffrent story

youtube links

 

[spitfire]

some fucking goons there indeed but from 45 seconds in there is a black guy standing around with a massive grin on his face looking distinctly unthreatened. so maybe the situation is not quite as cut and dried as it looks.

maybe the vast majority were just normal people doing what they though best?

 

[Ranbay]

Fuck, how do you put people back on ignore?