ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
same side basically
EDL watch
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Treacle Toes
Time
It is Eltham. They were chanting EDL. It's a shame the video maker hasn't worked out that 'big society' means himself and his community are being fucked over too. They have swallowed it and as per usual are not about to take their anger out on the establishment.
Red Storm
M14
Just spotted this video of the EDL apparently being kettled and arrested in Eltham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlZZwjY3vY4&feature=player_embedded
Source: http://www.viceland.com/wp/2011/08/liveblogging-the-riots/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlZZwjY3vY4&feature=player_embedded
Source: http://www.viceland.com/wp/2011/08/liveblogging-the-riots/
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Anudder Oik
heinous pointless bellend/fucking gobshite muppet
Here's the same lot. I don't think they were EDl although one group were chanting it earlier outside the pubs. They are football fans of various teams got together to patrol the streets cos their match was cancelled. If you feel intimidated by it then it's due to the lefts failure to engage in communities over the years thus leaving them open to right wing politics. One Rev Hack has even described these fans as lower middle class racists, the twat.
Take note that in the later videos of the same group they only chant "England". The majority obviously didn't want to be associated with the Edl much in the same way that people who go on anti cuts marches aren't all members of Trot groups.
Here's another group of vigilantes. This time armed. They are all the same colour and ethnic group but you won't hear people slagging them off because they are kurds and so beyond suspicion of harbouring unsavoury prejudices. I'll leave it to the Hack to place them in their appropriate class bracket.
Take note that in the later videos of the same group they only chant "England". The majority obviously didn't want to be associated with the Edl much in the same way that people who go on anti cuts marches aren't all members of Trot groups.
Here's another group of vigilantes. This time armed. They are all the same colour and ethnic group but you won't hear people slagging them off because they are kurds and so beyond suspicion of harbouring unsavoury prejudices. I'll leave it to the Hack to place them in their appropriate class bracket.
past caring
The Cathars were right
Some fucking perspective, eh? A few in that crowd chanting EDL - hardly suprising that those fuckers would try to make some capital out of it. But both the other videos uploaded of Eltham clearly show black people as part of the crowd defending the area.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
to be fair, the football one's I've come accross online ( Spurs) have been supportive of the Kurds/WC Bangladeshi's /the Seikhs etc
cantsin
Well-Known Member
agreed , Eltham a mix of (probably majority )non EDL/ EDL - the Enfield lot were defintitely racially mixed
love detective
there's no love too small
typical liberal hysteria/fear of the white working class combined with the usual patronising of ethnics
armed turks/kurds take to the streets to protect their local businesses - huzzah
armed indians/sikhs take to the streets to protect their temples - huzzah
anarchists take to the streets so erm…they don't feel left out - huzzah
armed (with brushes) middle classes take to the streets to clean them up - huzzah
some white working class types take to the streets to protect their area - UGLY RACISTS!!!!
armed turks/kurds take to the streets to protect their local businesses - huzzah
armed indians/sikhs take to the streets to protect their temples - huzzah
anarchists take to the streets so erm…they don't feel left out - huzzah
armed (with brushes) middle classes take to the streets to clean them up - huzzah
some white working class types take to the streets to protect their area - UGLY RACISTS!!!!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there is only one acceptable form of prejudice in britain today
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The Cathars were right
Did you bother watching it? Given that there are at least a couple of black blokes in that mob (the bloke running very close to the railings in the red trackie top with white sleeves, for one) and the only discernible chants are of "England" not "EDL" - what's your evidence of this being EDL?
albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
When/where did anarchists take to the streets? Have not heard of this.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
agree in prinicple, but in reality do you think the Eltham lot were trying to get to Lewisham to sweep up broken glass ?
love detective
there's no love too small
they were never going to lewisham in the first place - it was just more stupid twitter rumours (like the one about the catford cat being destroyed)
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The Cathars were right
That was a clear hypothetical. How about dealing with the actual point being made?
cantsin
Well-Known Member
video of Eltham lot being kettled at Yorkshire Grey Roundabout/trying to get to Lewisham according to the description :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlZZwjY3vY4&feature=player_embedded
love detective
there's no love too small
@ pc - it's actually true mate
this from south london solfed
this is also likely to be a predominantly white makeup and also marching towards/in lewisham, and also in response to the riots - doubt we'll see the same hysteria around this though
this from south london solfed
this is also likely to be a predominantly white makeup and also marching towards/in lewisham, and also in response to the riots - doubt we'll see the same hysteria around this though
cantsin
Well-Known Member
do you really, REALLY think that the Eltham lot turning up in Lewisham late last night would have had the same effect as Solfed turning up ?
love detective
there's no love too small
cant' watch the video here - but there's a difference between a group of people walking down a street which happens to form the border between the borough of greenwich and the borough of lewisham - and the hysteria that was going around last night which was a gang of tooled up NF were marching into the centre of lewisham
love detective
there's no love too small
well if the eltham 'lot' had a stated intention of marching towards the centre of lewisham/catford then it would be different as we'd have to ask why they were doing that - but the simple fact is that they weren't and they had no intention of doing so - so pretending they were to post-rationalise a knee jerk repulsion of, and to, the white working class doesn't really help much (not saying you yourself are doing this, but this does seem to be the undertone going about various places)
past caring
The Cathars were right
I doubt there would be the same mix of indifference and derision, no.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
did you watch the video?
they were streaming up the main road and kettled on the yorkshire grey roundabout, which as i'm sure you know, is well on the way from eltham to Catford/Lewisham
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
how do you know that? I've no idea whether they were planning/hoping to march anywhere, but I dont see that there is reall any eviodence either way. It is quite possible that they had every intention to do so.
love detective
there's no love too small
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