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Paxman had no evidence to back up his claims. He made a claim, Lennon refuted it and Paxman went 'oh' and moved on. He couldn't land a punch. There's picture after picture, evidence upon evidence that the EDL has violent memebrs... aims, there's evidence galore but he failed miserably. Now I agree Lennon was ranting away, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
The point is defeating the EDL politically won't be done by smug pompous liberals like Paxman but by working class communities arguing for W/C needs. Challenging the EDL claims to be 'working class' and yet they support and cheer on the cuts. That's where we should challenge them and how their racially motivated and derived politics is incapable of challenging the problems all working people face.
 
'That reads terribly smug to me. The edl bloke got more points across than most Oxbridge gents get past Paxman in an interview 3x as long. '

Yes, Paxo seemed somnabulent, it was a very strange interview and I was surprised to see so much get past:, while Lennon was agitated, he did recover his composure and imo got his central message across: that there is a problem with Islam and if it isn't 'dealt with' by the state' then there will ultimately be events like in Norway. This interview through Y/T etc will be seen by many thousands who never dream of watching Newsnight, yet again the 'ill fitting suits' brigade on here just don't get it...
 
OneStrike said:
That reads terribly smug to me. The edl bloke got more points across than most Oxbridge gents get past Paxman in an interview 3x as long.
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Unfortunately gotta agree. The edl bloke had the floor to himself and to think otherwise is either smug or delusional. He sped thru the "Anders was horrible" bit to get straight to his point about the perceived muslim threat, unchallenged. What a platform they just handed the edl.:(
 
Read Arthur on here he's vocal about the need for the cuts, their criticisms of trades unions etc. Lennon made public threats against student anti cuts demonstrators.
 
I should add I consider that interview will be used as a recruiting tool by the EDL who are getting much more professional, look at the website and imo, despite the sweating, i suspect Lennon has had some media training..
 
Not heard it yet but he was on 5 live this AM and seems to have done not as well as the free ride paxo gave him.
 
B0B2oo9 said:
Not heard it yet but he was on 5 live this AM and seems to have done not as well as the free ride paxo gave him.
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Yep, i heard most of the interview this morning, it wasn't terribly different to last night's Newsnight tbh, its clear that a quasi-liberal middle-class media has very little idea about how to engage and argue a point with a self-proclaimed w/c representative - a spokesman for Qulliam Foundation did put a couple of interesting points to him but Nicky fucking Campbell couldn't resist interjecting with his own (needless to say rather pointless) point, so he swerved from answering the more in-depth probing on double standards inre: his reactions to muslim and Xian extremism.
 
WTF?

why cant anyone take him to task on his out and out lies?

5 mins on the internet tells you all need to now about these cunts.
 
Someone just forwarded me this email from UAF, thought it was worth posting here:

Public meeting: Remember Norway, say no to the EDL

There will be a public rally against the racist and Islamophobic English Defence League at the London Muslim Centre this Friday 29 July.

The rally was called by United East End and Unite Against Fascism to oppose plans by the EDL to march on Tower Hamlets on 3 September.

But it has taken on added urgency in the wake of the Utøya massacre and Anders Breivik's links to the EDL. In light of recent events a Norwegian antifascist from the "Say no to racism" organisationwill be coming over to speak at the meeting.

Other speakers include: Glyn Robbins (United East End), Shaynul Khan (London Muslim Centre), Rev Alan Green (Tower Hamlets Inter Faith Forum), Sabby Dhalu (Unite Against Fascism), Max Levitas (veteran of the 1936 Battle of Cable Street), John McLoughlin (Tower Hamlets Unison), Rebecca Shaw (Rainbow Hamlets LGBT forum), Martin Smith (Unite Against Fascism), Right Rev Adrian Newman (Bishop of Stepney), Lutfur Rahman (Mayor of Tower Hamlets).

The rally starts at 7pm on Friday 29 July at the London Muslim Centre, 46-92 Whitechapel Road, London E1 1JX.

UAF and United East End are organising a national demo against the EDL in Tower Hamlets on Saturday 3 September.
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Tower Hamlets on 3 September will be intresting now if it's still on. I can see more people coming out to counter demo after whats just happend. I'm going to do my best to make it down if i can.
 
One could argue that some elements of extremism/racism could be due to jobs going abroad with regards to globalisation. Most the jobs that have gone overseas were mainly blue collar working class jobs. Recently a local councils has relocated it's whole IT deparment overseas. If other councils and companies do the same we could see a lot of white collar jobs going abroad. This might be a stereotype but EDL seem to be more working class, but with white collar jobs going abroad do you think we will see a different kind of extremeist/racist group emerging, mainly being middleclass white collar people?
 
Kippa said:
One could argue that some elements of extremism/racism could be due to jobs going abroad with regards to globalisation. Most the jobs that have gone overseas were mainly blue collar working class jobs. Recently a local councils has relocated it's whole IT deparment overseas. If other councils and companies do the same we could see a lot of white collar jobs going abroad. This might be a stereotype but EDL seem to be more working class, but with white collar jobs going abroad do you think we will see a different kind of extremeist/racist group emerging, mainly being middleclass white collar people?
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There's always room for racists, whatever their background. And they will always have their apologists, too.
 
Kippa said:
One could argue that some elements of extremism/racism could be due to jobs going abroad with regards to globalisation. Most the jobs that have gone overseas were mainly blue collar working class jobs. Recently a local councils has relocated it's whole IT deparment overseas. If other councils and companies do the same we could see a lot of white collar jobs going abroad. This might be a stereotype but EDL seem to be more working class, but with white collar jobs going abroad do you think we will see a different kind of extremeist/racist group emerging, mainly being middleclass white collar people?
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maybe those 'middleclass white collar people' should stop whinging, get off their backsides and lobby their councils/employers to not privatise, outsource and send work overseas then
 
Anyone heard of this shower before?

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They call themselves CxF (Combined Ex Forces)and are posturing to be some sort of paramilitary offshoot of the EDL.
 
Yeah that was my first thought. Then again reading the bollocks that Breivik wrote in his manifesto, I would have said much the same of him before the weekend.
 
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