EDL watch

[ddraig]

Because some people are too scared to take on their actual arguments so try discredit them in patronising ways....

what are their 'actual' arguments that haven't been taken on then?

 

[elfman]

what are their 'actual' arguments that haven't been taken on then?

I'm referring to certain liberals and UAF when I say that. I don't generally mean people on here

 

[laptop]

Well, hello elfman...

 

[butchersapron]

tanning boy on newsnight tonight

 

[Ranbay]

can i LOL in advance?

 

[Corax]

I hope Paxman does a better job than last time.

 

[elfman]

Well, hello elfman...

erm... hello?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Contempt for the white working class is rife throughout what passes for the left in Britain, it is not aimed just at the EDL.

Liberals if you don't mind, there's nothing "left" about the kind of cunts who use "chav" as an insult and think it's a good line of argument to point out that many EDLers are on the dole.

 

[grogwilton]

As the Scab EDL say, "Your not english anymore"

When they shouted that at us in Reading we replied with 'you're not Reading anyway' to the Bussed in Essex, Plymouth and Surrey (LOL) wankers.

 

[Ranbay]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/25/english-defence-league-founder-brawl

Watch him sit there and say the EDL is non violent tonight, after leaving court today for this ^

 

[audiotech]

sure was. His grand daughter objected but the local council and church were sick of visiting nazis. There was a 'memorial' to Hess where he landed in Scotland that the ANL smashed up ( in front of TV cameras as I recall) in the early 1990s.

In fact here is a link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...g-flight-of-adolf-hitlers-deputy-1505595.html

I remember the memorial being smashed up.

I'm always reminded when I hear the name Hess, of the actor playing Bernard 'Barney' Sumner in the film 'Control', the drama doc about Joy Division, making an appearance in their previous band 'Warsaw', stating to the audience the words "You all forgotten Rudolph Hess?". Goes down like a lead balloon.

 

[ddraig]

I'm referring to certain liberals and UAF when I say that. I don't generally mean people on here

hello

anyway, what are the actual arguments then?
ta

 

[butchersapron]

I remember the memorial being smashed up.

I'm always reminded when I hear the name Hess, of the actor playing Bernard 'Barney' Sumner in the film 'Control', the drama doc about Joy Division, making an appearance in their previous band 'Warsaw', stating to the audience the words "You all forgotten Rudolph Hess?". Goes down like a lead balloon.

It's on the electric circus album - and it's joy division.

 

[cantsin]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/25/english-defence-league-founder-brawl

Watch him sit there and say the EDL is non violent tonight, after leaving court today for this ^

considering what the main players got recently for the Chelsea-Cardiff handbags last year - 2 years a piece for some of them , for basically- bouncing up and down a bit - Lennon actually got off pretty lightly here, suspiciously so some might say

 

[audiotech]

It's on the electric circus album - and it's joy division.

It's on the Warsaw CD that I have in front of me and it's Warsaw.

 

[malatesta32]

It's on the Warsaw CD that I have in front of me and it's Warsaw.

the track on electric circus was recorded when they were warsaw but they were joy div by the time anyone took any notice! anyone else got the 10 inch lp on blue vinyl?

 

[audiotech]

The song in question was recorded in May '78. The name change happened in early '78:

Billed as Warsaw to ensure an audience, the band played their first gig as 'Joy Division' on 25 January 1978 at 'Pip's Disco' in Manchester.

So, butchersapron is right, the song was recorded after the name change, nonetheless, they did play this song when called 'Warsaw' and that's what the clip in this film depicts, so that's right too. We are both right, you are wrong.

 

[elfman]

hello

anyway, what are the actual arguments then?
ta

Do I really need to go into them? I'm presuming you're already familiar with them if you're posting on this thread...

 

[The39thStep]

There were loads of Nazi symbolism around punk,post punk and Factory Records.It was like being a bit daring about he past. The rubbing point was that the Nazis at the time couldn't find a band who really believed in all that stuff and who produced any decent music. I remember one of the NF 'theoretical' magazines ( I think Harrington wrote the article) wishing that there was a racial,nationalist band whose music people genuinely liked.

 

[Fingers]

Can I just say, Newsnight is going to be hugely worth watching tonight.

 

[The39thStep]

considering what the main players got recently for the Chelsea-Cardiff handbags last year - 2 years a piece for some of them , for basically- bouncing up and down a bit - Lennon actually got off pretty lightly here, suspiciously so some might say

Thank heavens for the Tories custody as a last resort policy

 

[elbows]

Channel 4 news has an article about EDL links to the NDL that Breivik claimed to have co-founded, including EDL apparently issuing a ruling over an NDL leadership conflict.

http://www.channel4.com/news/edls-connections-with-breiviks-norwegian-cell

And they have another angle:

EDL's chief financier, Alan Lake, travelled to Malmo in Sweden in September, 2009, where he talked about how best to form anti-Islamic groups in the image of the EDL.

And in April, Mr Lake was interviewed on Norwegian TV, saying he would execute people who believed in Sharia law.

"I call them seditious. They are seeking the overthrow of the state. They're not respecting that which protects the state. As far as I'm concerned I'd be happy to execute people like that," he told TV2.

He added: "It doesn't look good for certain countries in Europe, certainly those with smaller populations. I suspect its going to take the loss of a few countries to wake other people up."

 

[BlackArab]

considering what the main players got recently for the Chelsea-Cardiff handbags last year - 2 years a piece for some of them , for basically- bouncing up and down a bit - Lennon actually got off pretty lightly here, suspiciously so some might say

Do you think so? If it was anybody else I might feel sympathy as it looks dodgy to me but it is him so couldn't give a fuck. He was stupid being so well known and being anywhere near the MiGs let alone at the front.

The main players last year were doing more than bouncing around from the footage I saw.

 

[Fingers]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...tensive-links-to-English-Defence-League.htmlc

Newsnight, BBC 2 ten minutes. Tommy may soil himself

 

[Fingers]

and charging journos £50 to attend a press conference? WTF?

 

[Fingers]

Paxo just made him look like he was sick in his mouth! ouch!

 

[Ranbay]

Shitting bricks

 

[krtek a houby]

Watch him sweat and fumble

 

[Ranbay]

Fucked

 

[Corax]

Tommy seems a little, er... stimulated...