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Dumping the BBC?

Nothing immediate. It is just killing itself slowly though with this stuff. When a government proposes stopping the license fee, perhaps no-one really cares any more.
I think that’s it, really. You can do what you want when you have power right up to the point that you lose that power and then you see who your friends are. The BBC can do what they want with impunity right now, but they’re aligning themselves with the very people who’d happily get rid of the public broadcast element. When those people turn on the BBC, who’s going to stand up for them?
 
I think that’s it, really. You can do what you want when you have power right up to the point that you lose that power and then you see who your friends are. The BBC can do what they want with impunity right now, but they’re aligning themselves with the very people who’d happily get rid of the public broadcast element. When those people turn on the BBC, who’s going to stand up for them?

Not me.

Fuck 'em.
 
...and it's not just about the bias. I could live with that if the programming was insightful or engaging but their coverage of this election has been close to unwatchable.

They had Malcolm Gladwell on the Daily Politics the other day (why??) who actually made a very valid observation - the journos seem obsessed with trying to trap the politicians into providing some "viral clip" for them...
 
One of my main objections to BBC is that, at senior level, it's the same posh cunts who flit between it, the civil service, and politics
Now let's be fair here, it's not always the exact same posh cunts. It's the same class of posh cunts, who frequently know each other, socialise together, and went to the same schools. Across the whole media, government, the City, er.
 
One of my main objections to BBC is that, at senior level, it's the same posh cunts who flit between it, the civil service, and politics

This is the board:
Chairman - Late of Virgin Money, Prudential, Deputy Governor Bank of England.
DG - Career arts/BBC.
Wales rep - Academic, but of the sort who chairs things, works with government etc.
CEO BBC studios, director global (the commercial subsidiary stuff) - Procter and Gamble, Pepsi, then various BBC roles.
Non-exec - has been CFO of various investment funds. Currently a senior independent director of esure, and at Hargreaves-Landsdown.
Non-exec - sports, obviously.
Non-exec - Academic stuff, previous news stuff (deputy editor at FT, editor at Indie, New Statesman).
Non-exec - currently director of a cyber security company, has worked in PWC and Goldman Sachs.
Director, nations and regions - career BBC type.
Non-exec - Another career media type, Granada, All3media (big production stuff around ITV).
Senior independent director - Tate, Arts council etc.
Non exec, member for England - current non exec director on... National fucking express. Previous Vice Chairman at KPMG.
Director news and current affairs - career BBC broadcast journo.

I can't be arsed to do the exec committee. More career BBC types, bit of civil service and one James Purnell. It's a pretty awful picture really...
 
It's all a fucking merry-go-round at that level - it doesn't matter what the actual business of whoever you work for is. Get kicked out for harassment or just fancy a change? Choo choo next stop on the gravy train.
 
Someone has to pay Gary Lineker's much needed salary don't they?

He doesn't get enough for talking about the footy on BT Sport, so has to do exactly the same thing paid for by the tax payer. :thumbs:
 
7 way leadership debate, even fucking UKIP to get airtime but not the MRLP

Err, UKIP is dead & buried, I think you mean the Brexit Party.

And, err, it's not a leadership debate.

But, at least you got the '7 way' bit right. :thumbs:

* Only 3 out of the 7 are sending their leaders.

Presenter Nick Robinson will chair the debate between the Conservatives' chief secretary to the Treasury Rishi Sunak, Labour's business secretary Rebecca Long Bailey, Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson, SNP leader and Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price, former Green Party co-leader Caroline Lucas and the Brexit Party's chairman Richard Tice.

Parties to be quizzed in seven-way election debate

Who the fuck is going to bother to watch that? :hmm:
 
Do you reckon they gave a definition of ‘left wing’?
BMG's poll asked all respondents to chart their political beliefs on a scale from 0-10, with 0 being very left-wing and 10 being very right-wing.

They then categorised people who said 0-3 as left-wing, 4-6 as centrists, and 7-10 as right-wing.
Self-identifying left- and right-wingers I guess.
 
It's not so much whether it is left- or right-wing balanced (although I can't remember the last time the BBC ran a piece in which capitalism as a concept was taken as read to be a bad thing, whereas the opposite happens all the time). It's the fact that it is demonstrably anti-Corbyn, and this has been evidenced time and again. For example, the BBC was reprimanded in a report in 2016: Media 'persistently' biased against Jeremy Corbyn, academic study finds
 
Self-identifying left- and right-wingers I guess.

I mean in terms of the question... left wing means very different things to different people. If you asked the question ‘does the bbc regularly criticise capitalism as a system?’ I imagine you’d be met with a lot of don’t knows/general bafflement. For many on the right, left wing and socially liberal are essentially synonymous.
 
It's not so much whether it is left- or right-wing balanced (although I can't remember the last time the BBC ran a piece in which capitalism as a concept was taken as read to be a bad thing, whereas the opposite happens all the time). It's the fact that it is demonstrably anti-Corbyn, and this has been evidenced time and again. For example, the BBC was reprimanded in a report in 2016: Media 'persistently' biased against Jeremy Corbyn, academic study finds
Yes, but a report written by academics, who we know are all fantasist communists with no experience of the real world.
 
I didn’t pay my licence for a year once. Had them knocking on my door. Unfortunately I’m a shit liar and they found out that I had a telly. I got a court date, but that went away once I paid the fee.

At least in the UK you can get out of it if you can prove you have no telly. In Germany everybody has to pay the equivalent of the licence fee, no matter what. German telly is far more crap than the BBC, I never watch it and the two main channels show commercials anyway. :mad:
 
Assuming that people who are cancelling are also not watching it would be cool to hear how their perception of 'the news' changes after a little while.

And of the place of tv in general.
 
Assuming that people who are cancelling are also not watching it would be cool to hear how their perception of 'the news' changes after a little while.

And of the place of tv in general.
I stopped watching TV news for a long time before I stopped watching TV altogether - or rather I might have watched it occasionally but I found it increasingly weird and irrelevant. Now, if I watch a BBC news bulletin on TV at somebody's house or whatever, it seems like a parody, one of the news segments from Robocop. It's not just that there's a bias - I'm used to that from everything else - but that it's so long and expects me to believe the whole thing on all topics from start to finish. Not even some random channel on Twitter expects that, they just try to hit you with a few short things.

I don't know if I ever actually "believed" in TV news anyway though. I think it was hearing "this statement is being read by an actor" when I was a kid that made it all out to be a joke. The major personal change has been in being more sceptical of newspapers, and even that wasn't some sudden massive revelation, and was helped along by all the consolidation of publishing in the last few decades.
 
I stopped watching TV news for a long time before I stopped watching TV altogether - or rather I might have watched it occasionally but I found it increasingly weird and irrelevant. Now, if I watch a BBC news bulletin on TV at somebody's house or whatever, it seems like a parody, one of the news segments from Robocop. It's not just that there's a bias - I'm used to that from everything else - but that it's so long and expects me to believe the whole thing on all topics from start to finish. Not even some random channel on Twitter expects that, they just try to hit you with a few short things.

I don't know if I ever actually "believed" in TV news anyway though. I think it was hearing "this statement is being read by an actor" when I was a kid that made it all out to be a joke. The major personal change has been in being more sceptical of newspapers, and even that wasn't some sudden massive revelation, and was helped along by all the consolidation of publishing in the last few decades.
Yup...it expands.

It's not revelatory (may or may not be a word), it's confirmatory.
 
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