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The report says he left his drinking mates round 3am, and was hit 'around 4am', and time the driver that spotted him did so was 'just after 4am', so a matter of minutes. He died a month later from a heart attack caused by an infection he got in hospital, not from the injuries caused by the accident.

Although there's no pavement, he shouldn't have been staggering along on a 60mph road in fog & darkest, he should have been on the grass verge, she only clipped him, and had no reason to to think she had hit a person.
He wasn’t hit around 4am that’s when the driver found him and she didn’t just clip him she knocked her wing mirror off. She has a responsibility to drive within the conditions and to stop if there’s an accident.
I am all for better sentencing for drivers that have acted recklessly, and esp. if the recklessness results in serious injury or death, but that doesn't seem to the the case here - nothing suggests she was driving recklessly, and nothing suggests she directly caused his death.
How can you knock your your wing mirror off, not stop and not be driving recklessly?. Get a grip.
 
He wasn’t hit around 4am that’s when the driver found him...

Go back, read the report, and understand -

When Cameron, Emma and his friend Dan Fielding left at around 3am,

Charlotte Stott’s Volkswagen Golf hit him near the Asda store at Penryn at around 4am on Saturday, April 14, 2018.

Motorist Nicholas Reeks noticed someone lying at the side of the A39 bypass near the Asda supermarket as he drove to work at just after 4am.

Can't be arsed with the rest of your post, because clearly you haven't read & engaged with the evidence available, and are acting like a fool for whatever reason.

ETA - one comment to that article is interesting...

If the gentleman left Falmouth Marina to walk home to a houseboat at Islington Wharf in Penryn how did the collision happen near ASDA on the A39, which is probably over a mile from that route?
 
Can't be arsed with the rest of your post, because clearly you haven't read & engaged with the evidence available, and are acting like a fool for whatever reason.
You can’t, if your in an accident where your wing mirror is knocked off it’s not a badger ffs.
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ETA - one comment to that article is interesting...
[/QUOTE]You’ve been at this victim blaming stuff from the start, she ran into him and left him there, didn’t matter if he had too many.
 
We don't have all the facts, it's not worth trying to play detectives. For example the article describes a mirror casing at the scene. For what it's worth I once - on foot - bumped into a modern VW Polo parked on the pavement (one for the keying thread perhaps) and the mirror housing fell off that.

Lots of other mysteries in that story but we're missing loads of info. Possibly the courts and coroner were too, but they were best placed to figure it out. Sentencing is another matter. She got a suspended jail term FWIW.
 
You can’t, if your in an accident where your wing mirror is knocked off it’s not a badger ffs.

You’ve been at this victim blaming stuff from the start, she ran into him and left him there, didn’t matter if he had too many.

As mauvais pointed out just above, the report says a mirror casing at the scene, not that the wing mirror was knocked off, these casings can come off easily, and in the circumstances here, you probably wouldn't notice at the time. She also said, "I thought it was an animal – a badger, fox or something", a fox can jump, so could hit the wing mirror, or you could hit an animal at bumper level & it could bounce up, knocking the mirror. There's noting in the details that makes what she says impossible, which is probably why she wasn't charged with something more serious, because of lack of evidence.

Walking on a road, a 60mph one, in the dark, having been drinking, and especially when foggy is bloody dangerous - I know I've done it plenty of times having lived out in sticks, and would always step off the road & into the grass verge when a car was coming. I would even do that if I was wearing something fluorescent & carrying a torch.

The Highway Code is very clear that when there is no pavement, you should keep to the right-hand side of the road so that you can see oncoming traffic, AND you should take extra care, pedestrians do have a duty of care to themselves.

Pedestrians are perfectly entitled to walk on country lanes and other roads which have no pavement however they have a duty to take reasonable care for their own safety.

In the UK, we drive on the left and the Highway Code recommends that pedestrians should keep to the right (facing oncoming traffic) but cross over at right hand bends to the left so that the oncoming traffic retains maximum visibility. Also walking in single file and wearing visible (preferably high visibility and reflective) clothing is recommended ( see Rule 2).

This is not victim blaming, this is just a statement of fact, and is likely to have contributed to the reason why she wasn't charge with anything more serious.

Clearly she was wrong in not stopping & reporting it, but as someone else stopped just minutes later, doing that is unlikely to have changed the outcome, which was the sad death of the guy, not directly from injuries suffered, but from an a heart attack caused by an infection. caught in hospital, a month later. These facts are likely to be the reason behind the suspended sentence, if she had actually killed him, then that sentence would be highly questionable.

Both parties should have been taking more care, and both could have avoided this accident, and the eventual tragic outcome.
 
I'm not denying it was an accident, but if you hit someone with your wing mirror then you are driving carelessly, and if you leave the scene of an accident it's just because you have something to hide.

The fact she got a suspended sentence and was free to drive is because the laws regarding motorists are an arse.
 
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Two drivers have been sentenced for a crash which wrecked two sports cars worth a total of £250,000.

The Porsche and Ferrari collided at a roundabout in Sheffield in May 2018, writing off both vehicles.

Witnesses told police the pair had been driving "racing style" in the lead-up to the crash.

Carl Hartley, 32, who was driving the Ferrari, and Porsche driver Henry James Hibbs, 27, were given suspended jail sentences at Sheffield Crown Court.

Hartley fled from the scene, South Yorkshire Police said. He later turned himself into the police, but said the crash had taken place because his brakes had failed.

Police said extensive checks found no damage to the vehicle's brakes, and investigators also discovered that the Ferrari's airbags had deployed with the car travelling at 68mph (109kph).

 
Missed a trick there, when he told them to calm down should have added, "You need to watch your blood pressure, know any doctors?"
 
Is there anything actually illegal about driving on the wrong side of the road? Assuming you've not crossed a solid white line or there is something coming in that direction?
 
That first clip; I would have thought the other cyclists would have been a little supportive.
I remember a woman turning on to Albert Bridge from Embankment a few months ago. It was quite a tight left turn going straight through width restrictions. She panicked and went through the exit side of the bridge instead :facepalm:
 
Is there anything actually illegal about driving on the wrong side of the road? Assuming you've not crossed a solid white line or there is something coming in that direction?
The white line down the centre of the road marks the middle of the road. Like you say, don't cross it if it is a solid double line or single solid line if its against you.
The clips look like the drivers ignored directional signs.
 
Is there anything actually illegal about driving on the wrong side of the road? Assuming you've not crossed a solid white line or there is something coming in that direction?


This sign says Get In Lane
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AFAIK it is not an offence in itself to ignore it, however ignoring it to go over a pedestrian crossing on the wrong side of the road opens you up to all sorts of ancillary offences. Then there's the using the Merc as a weapon...
 
Terrible driving, but the wannabe cop cyclist is going to annoy the wrong person one day, and, if he's lucky, get away with a good kicking.

This - something I always remember after the event when I've had a righteous rant at someone driving like an idiot and endangering me.


Particularity enjoyed the way they carefully obscured the Number plate and then, at end of the video he called it out in phonetic alphabet anyway
 
This - something I always remember after the event when I've had a righteous rant at someone driving like an idiot and endangering me.
The cyclist had no idea who he was stopping or why they were on the wrong side of the road. The only thing he knew for certain is that the person he stopped was on the wrong side of the road and was there for a reason. In most cases the reason will be that the driver is a cunt, and most likely an impatient angry cunt in a hurry, so riding out in front of them and impeding them further, with his sanctimonious robocop finger wagging, is most likely going to anger the motorist even further, and anyone who thinks that a push bike is a match for a 2 ton car is sadly deluded, and I'm surprised we haven't already seen a video of someone running over him and his bike. But there's a chance that the next person he stops has a genuine reason to be in a hurry and on the wrong side of the road. Maybe an off-duty cop saw someone getting robbed up the road. Maybe someone in the car is having a heart attack and needs to get to the hospital. How would anyone feel if a family member was having a heart attack in their car, and this 'hero' rode out in front of them on his chariot of righteousness? Maybe the cyclist is as much of a cunt as the cunts he's practicing his pro bono policing on.
 
bike and car defenders in agreement shocker !!

This thread is gonna get a whole lot less interesting at this rate
 
bike and car defenders in agreement shocker !!

This thread is gonna get a whole lot less interesting at this rate
:D

Did anybody notice this?

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Probably not, because it's par for the course, but It seems robocunt's enforcement of rules doesn't extend to cyclists, as this one was waved on through.
 
All participants on the videos are equally loathsome

Have just clocked that there are two videos. Does the person filming camp out on that corner all day for fun?

I hate to say it, but it would not be surprising if one day he is found with a large tyre track across his chest
 
The cyclist had no idea who he was stopping or why they were on the wrong side of the road.
And as we've seen, it can go badly wrong:



Obviously out of order from the puncher but the cyclist totally deserved that and it was satisfying to watch.

I'm not sure why so many cyclists feel the need to do this. We've also had a few on here complaining that drivers have told them to get fucked when they tried to put on the traffic cop hat. Mind your own fucking business!
 
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All participants on the videos are equally loathsome

Have just clocked that there are two videos. Does the person filming camp out on that corner all day for fun?

I hate to say it, but it would not be surprising if one day he is found with a large tyre track across his chest

Had a look at a couple of his other videos, he spends a lot of time riding around in Regents park videoing drivers on their phones, he has a pretty good conviction rate to be fair. I think he's seen a lot of people cutting that corner and has just got fed up with it.
 
The problem with cyclists.......
the law doesn't apply to them

Yet they are always on hand to point out the error of others ways.

Wasn't there a thread about the trouble with cyclists



:facepalm:
 
spymaster: Obviously out of order from the puncher but the cyclist totally asked for that.

hash tag: The problem with cyclists.......
the law doesn't apply to them
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Disagree with the above statements
Camping out with a view to filming miscreants and then being holier then thou with them is (IMHO) unproductive.

Telling someone they have stopped all over the ASL in a pinch point in the road - then getting punched for it (after an aggressive bit of acceleration from the Audi) seems a disproportionate reward. I hope the driver got prosecuted for that

I believe the correct statement to be:
The problem with many road users ......
the law doesn't apply to them
 
Telling someone they have stopped all over the ASL in a pinch point in the road - then getting punched for it (after an aggressive bit of acceleration from the Audi) seems a disproportionate reward.
That's not what happened though and it was a passenger who punched him not the driver. If the cyclist had simply told the driver off for encroaching on the ASL you may have a small point but this also happened before ASL's were legally enforceable, iirc.

What has happened here is that the cyclist has chased down the car to the next set of lights, aggressively banged on the window and delivered a foul mouthed tirade. Wrong car. Tough shit.
 
I suspect that cyclists are more sanctimonious than drivers. They certainly shout louder at other miscreants and their own rights and often see themselves above the law.
I think drivers tend to shrug their shoulders more and move on.
 
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