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London roads are the hardest roads I've driven on this country by a long way. I mean this is terms of hazards and unusual junctions. FWIW its not helped by a hell of a lot of London drivers being inconsiderate arses bit that's hardly the learners fault.
 
Part of the problem in the south-east is the pace of life, and most people always being in a rush.

Having lived in the SE, the West Country & the Republic of Ireland, the different in the pace of life is remarkable and reflected in how people drive.
The same is true coming back from France, where - particularly on the autoroutes - the standard of driving, and the density of traffic, is markedly higher, and lower, respectively. Then you arrive in Portsmouth and it's back to clawing your way out of the inside lane every time you want to overtake.
 
You should be able to admit your errors on this thread, and we all have them!

Yesterday I was distracted when reversing into a space and nearly backed into a bollard.
 
I did a 20 speed awareness course today, consequence of getting caught doing 25 on Lea Bridge Road on Boxing Day.

Largely a waste of time, learned about two minor things I didn’t know before. Best that can be said was that the instructor was non-judgemental and realistic, probably because he himself admitted to being caught recently.

Everyone was there under sufferance. Weirdly, though this course was in Swansea, five of the eleven people there had been caught on the same camera, Lansdowne Lane (?) in Bath! Several people had travelled up from Bristol for the course.

Not sure why I bothered, just to keep a 25 year license clean (first offence). Apparently the insurance hit is only 10%. This wouldn’t have been worth it if my employer wasn’t still paying me for the ‘sick’ day. Apparently most people who take the course are on 9 points so avoiding a ban. Though that didn’t appear true for this course. Oh. And we’d all paid different amounts, ranging from £92 to £100. How does that justify itself?

Boring as hell.
 
The cost is basically the same as the fine if you take the points. It is unlikely that anyone there was on nine points though, you may be offered a course once every three years, after that no courses so you then start to accumulate points if you don’t slow down. It is boring, but I found small amusement in watching the belligerent twonks being arse with the two instructors who could not give a shit.
 
I've driven the full length of the M1 a lot of times. And I'm always amazed the drop in lane discipline the further south I am.

The only thing I can think (other than southerners are shit drivers) is that the density of junctions on all roads in the south is higher and therefore people tend to keep out of the left hand land as it is often used as a splitting off lane or to make room for joining.
In Spain the lane discipline is far, far worse, and middle lane hoggers much more common. But as you suggest it is linked to the number and density of junctions. The prevailing multi lane road there is the autovia, which is a watered down motorway and can have up to several junctions/ joining lanes per mile around densely populated areas. So the ‘slow’ lane there can be a bit of a nightmare to stick to.
 
Fantastic article on the work of traffic cops here: Crash detective - driven to his death

David Evans had been working the Christmas Day shift monitoring CCTV at a power station on the south Wales coast.

In a gesture of seasonal goodwill, a colleague had told him to leave early and get home to his family; he'd take over from here.

As Mr Evans, 49, set off on his Honda CB 500 motorcycle for the hour-long ride home in the wind and rain, his wife and two young daughters were putting the finishing touches to Christmas dinner, awaiting the familiar rumble of his bike pulling up outside.

The call came through to the police control centre 40-or-so minutes later at about 18:00 from a member of the public.

"Just before junction 24 eastbound on the M4," he said. "There's a motorbike right against the central reservation… It's actually on the floor. But there's no sign of the driver."
 
Take them off for a few days and see how you get on. It'll be interesting to hear what you think about that.
I've tried this now and am going to put them on again for big drive tomorrow. Definitely feels like people give me bit more space with the P plates on, probably because they're aware that I might do something stupid at any moment.
 
I've tried this now and am going to put them on again for big drive tomorrow. Definitely feels like people give me bit more space with the P plates on, probably because they're aware that I might do something stupid at any moment.
or, in driver parlance, take the p
 
I did a 20 speed awareness course today, consequence of getting caught doing 25 on Lea Bridge Road on Boxing Day.

Largely a waste of time, learned about two minor things I didn’t know before. Best that can be said was that the instructor was non-judgemental and realistic, probably because he himself admitted to being caught recently.

Everyone was there under sufferance. Weirdly, though this course was in Swansea, five of the eleven people there had been caught on the same camera, Lansdowne Lane (?) in Bath! Several people had travelled up from Bristol for the course.

Not sure why I bothered, just to keep a 25 year license clean (first offence). Apparently the insurance hit is only 10%. This wouldn’t have been worth it if my employer wasn’t still paying me for the ‘sick’ day. Apparently most people who take the course are on 9 points so avoiding a ban. Though that didn’t appear true for this course. Oh. And we’d all paid different amounts, ranging from £92 to £100. How does that justify itself?

Boring as hell.
I got that course for Lea Bridge Road , had to do the thing in Islington though . Lansdown Lane in Bath is pretty steep and just after a 60 mph road. Not that I am defending those disgraceful Bath speeders .
 
Slightly off topic, but a colleague's daughter's driving instructor fell asleep during her third ever driving lesson last weekend. :facepalm::hmm: He has been dumped. They are debating dobbing him in it.
 
Slightly off topic, but a colleague's daughter's driving instructor fell asleep during her third ever driving lesson last weekend. :facepalm::hmm: He has been dumped. They are debating dobbing him in it.

My instructor fell asleep during one of my lessons. I'd just accelerated up to about 50 as we'd hit a country road. I turned to him and asked what the speed limit was and woke him up. I laughed at the time.
 
Just drove home from town (Bristol - Kingswood), I was behind some guy who was talking on his phone. Warm day, all windows open, I yelled at him to get off his phone, at first he ignored me but I did it again and again and the pavement was busy so other people were starting to look at him. Finally he got off the phone and sped away at over 30 (busy Saturday morning shopping road, 20 zone to boot). In the end when we stopped at a red light (I arrived a few seconds behind him) he actually leaned out and asked me if I was a copper and told me to mind my own business.

Fair comment, but I still told him to learn to drive like a grown up before he kills someone. He sped off again, this time at 40 in a 30 zone :facepalm:

Driving lolz
 
Some people are just so selfish and expect to be able to park anywhere and get away with it. Really? Outcry after fire engine gets parking ticket
East Grinstead councillor said:
A PCN was issued. However, since then it has come to our notice that the fire crew were on official duty...
...errr, wut?

I mean, if you see a fire engine parked on the street, is the natural assumption "oh, I expect they've just popped out for a little ride to the shops, maybe just enjoying the view, grab a packet of fags, maybe have a nice latte in the coffee shop"?

Or might one think "Oh, a fire engine. I expect there's a crew somewhere doing their job"?

Just seems to me that slapping a ticket on a fire engine is a monumentally stupid thing to even think of doing. Although it would have been funnier if they'd towed it away.
 
...errr, wut?

I mean, if you see a fire engine parked on the street, is the natural assumption "oh, I expect they've just popped out for a little ride to the shops, maybe just enjoying the view, grab a packet of fags, maybe have a nice latte in the coffee shop"?

Or might one think "Oh, a fire engine. I expect there's a crew somewhere doing their job"?

Just seems to me that slapping a ticket on a fire engine is a monumentally stupid thing to even think of doing. Although it would have been funnier if they'd towed it away.

Should've clamped it.
 
There’s a contraflow bike lane in Leeds which the police have a habit of parking in, never with any sign of an emergency. Wish someone would ticket them as it’s a particularly twatty place to do it given you have to ride into oncoming traffic to get around them, plus there’s parking spaces opposite.
 
London roads are the hardest roads I've driven on this country by a long way. I mean this is terms of hazards and unusual junctions. FWIW its not helped by a hell of a lot of London drivers being inconsiderate arses bit that's hardly the learners fault.

London drivers are some of the best I have experienced, and I find them to generally be pretty considerate (e.g. the coordinated letting people out of junctions by drivers in both directions. Such courtesy is not regularly displayed outside of London, IME.) We're a patient lot by and large!
 
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