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They bloody have. They started off by making stuff up (Russiagate, peegate), then they impeached him, they've been scouring through his past and present conduct for six years. Even so they don't seem to have very much on him, if anything. We'll see. But the pertinent question is why they are doing it. It's not from a disinterested search for justice, it's to pre-empt the democratic process. Not cool.
You forgot grabthembythepussygate, fraudgate, encourageaninsurrectiongate ...
 
Sure can. The most virulent anti-Trumpers are in the CIA and the FBI, although Milley isn't far behind. These guys have been panting for war with Russia for a decade. Hillary was all set to give it to them, but along came Trump and scuppered their plans. So now they hates him.
the most virulent anti-trumpers are people like socialists, anti fascists, BLM activists, womens rights activists and indeed anyone who fears the having a corrupt, racist, raptist meglomanical facistic bully anywhere near any position of power.
 
The US deep state doesn't just sit back and accept the electoral victory of its enemies. They have what you might call a proactive response to such setbacks.

was their proactive response to trick magas to not mail by ballot during a global pandemic

:hmm:
 
Was it the Shallow State hunting Hunter's laptop?

The deep state put out disinformation that Hunter's laptop was a Russian plot. Just one of their anti-Trump tricks that we know about:

 
No, because I think the crazed neocons who control the Democrats and the deep state are likely to provoke a nuclear war if Biden or a surrogate is elected in '24. Any action towards that end is immoral imho.

I don't disagree that the Democrats are reprehensible. But not convinced that Trump's Kelptomaniacs, nationalist chauvinists and outrights fascists are somehow more peace-loving and moral. Such a suggestion is risible. Think of his bellicose bumblings against China (also a nuclear state) or his enabling of Netanyahu's land seizures, military assistance to Saudi Arabia amounting to 100s of billions of dollars.

It doesn't take a Deep State to catch Trump's multi-nefarious wrongdoing. At least your not pretending it doesn't exist. So if it exists why shouldn't he be prosecuted for it, just as anyone else should. If Trump's opponents can find genuine proof of opponents criminality, such as electoral malefaction they should be able to produce it. So far there's been nothing but empty accusation and statistical misunderstanding.
 
the most virulent anti-trumpers are people like socialists, anti fascists, BLM activists, womens rights activists and indeed anyone who fears the having a corrupt, racist, raptist meglomanical facistic bully anywhere near any position of power.

Trump doesn't fear them, he fears the deep state. Anyway they've got nothing on the Lincoln Project when it comes to bitchiness:

 
The deep state put out disinformation that Hunter's laptop was a Russian plot. Just one of their anti-Trump tricks that we know about:


and Hilary's emails :D
 
The deep state put out disinformation that Hunter's laptop was a Russian plot. Just one of their anti-Trump tricks that we know about:

Thank goodness due process and a congressional committee were there to catch them. Or perhaps given that, they weren't that deep, just mid-level reality-based types horrified at the prospect of Trump and willing to lie avoid aiding his campaign.
 
I don't disagree that the Democrats are reprehensible. But not convinced that Trump's Kelptomaniacs, nationalist chauvinists and outrights fascists are somehow more peace-loving and moral. Such a suggestion is risible. Think of his bellicose bumblings against China (also a nuclear state) or his enabling of Netanyahu's land seizures, military assistance to Saudi Arabia amounting to 100s of billions of dollars.

It doesn't take a Deep State to catch Trump's multi-nefarious wrongdoing. At least your not pretending it doesn't exist. So if it exists why shouldn't he be prosecuted for it, just as anyone else should. If Trump's opponents can find genuine proof of opponents criminality, such as electoral malefaction they should be able to produce it. So far there's been nothing but empty accusation and statistical misunderstanding.

As I say, I disapprove of Trump's prosecution because the motive behind it is to subvert the people's will. But as it is likely to prove counter-productive I suppose it doesn't really matter. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Trump go to jail.
 
Trump doesn't fear them, he fears the deep state. Anyway they've got nothing on the Lincoln Project when it comes to bitchiness:


whats your point? that some shit bags oppose trump means that biden is worse? The man is a fucking cancer. Him winning another presidency would be a disaster with potentialy catostrophic consequences for the US and the world and could very well unleash a wave of fash and state violence against the marginalised and anyone who opposes him. but but .. "The Deep State" - seriously? just fuck off with that . For someone suposedly so knowledgable you are really fucking stupid. or worse.
 
Thank goodness due process and a congressional committee were there to catch them. Or perhaps given that, they weren't that deep, just mid-level reality-based types horrified at the prospect of Trump and willing to lie avoid aiding his campaign.

If you're interested in the deep state's conflict with Trump:

 
whats your point? that some shit bags oppose trump means that biden is worse?
The deep state, which controls Biden, opposes Trump because he wants to end the war in Ukraine, which they want to continue. I'm afraid that if it continues it may well turn nuclear, thus destroying the world. That's why I'd prefer Trump to Biden.
 
FFS, the 'Deep State' isn't the CIA, FBI, etc. That's how you might mean it (and it's also incorrect as that's not what they are) but that's not what Trump and Trump supporters mean. It's like saying "rootless cosmopolitans" and saying, "Well I just mean nomadic world travellers" or something you thick fucking idiot. For someone that I assume thinks of themselves as in some way of the left you aren't half a useful idiot to the fascist and reactionary right and not nearly as smart as you seem to think you are.

Back on ignore phildwyer so don't bother replying, just fuck off back to whatever weird bits of the internet you must have spent the last years avidly reading so uncritically.
 
Be good if phildwyer was banned from every thread except those about kittens. Surely he couldn't trash that.

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Fuck off Dwyer:D
It's impressive, last time he was actually posting I was just a lurker, but somehow he managed to make enough of an impression that every now and then I meet someone with the surname Dwyer irl and a little part of my brain just automatically suggests the phrase "fuck off Dwyer". Just as well I don't meet many Gromits, I suppose.
 
It's impressive, last time he was actually posting I was just a lurker, but somehow he managed to make enough of an impression that every now and then I meet someone with the surname Dwyer irl and a little part of my brain just automatically suggests the phrase "fuck off Dwyer". Just as well I don't meet many Gromits, I suppose.
Makes watching stop-motion animated films difficult though.
 
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