I think a lot of people have had a building resentment pretty well over the last 40 -50 years that their world view is ignored. They are being told how to talk, and are called out if they make the old racist/sexist jokes that they've grown up with and still enjoy laughing at. They hated the Vietnam War protestors and feel the same about general anti-war protests. Christians have seen their religion sidelined by more liberal generations, and their demands for what people should believe and how people behave ignored or ridiculed. Trump is a way to fight back.What you have to ask yourself is: why do they want to hurt those people? Νot because if their answer is “good” enough, we’ll say, “oh, okay then!” But because if we don’t understand why, we don’t have a hope in hell’s chance of defusing their hatred. People don’t just wake up one day with the thought in their head that they want to hurt others. It’s a process that happens over time, arising from a massive nexus of social experiences. So ideally, we want to do two things. First, we want to interrupt that pipeline and stop new people from becoming radicalised by hate. And second, we want to find a way to undo the process. Neither of these are possible if we haven’t understood where it is coming from.
I think this is a lot closer to the truth.I think a lot of people have had a building resentment pretty well over the last 40 -50 years that their world view is ignored. They are being told how to talk, and are called out if they make the old racist/sexist jokes that they've grown up with and still enjoy laughing at. They hated the Vietnam War protestors and feel the same about general anti-war protests. Christians have seen their religion sidelined by more liberal generations, and their demands for what people should believe and how people behave ignored or ridiculed. Trump is a way to fight back.
I read that many Latino/Latina voters were put off by being referred to by the made up word Latinx too.
I look forward to the day dogs turn their noses up at his rotting corpseI can't believe were still talking about this guy, let alone almost 300 pages into it. I can't wait for the day when I no longer have to see or hear him in the news. That date just go a whole lot further off.
There are massive contradictions in the Trump coalition:
Big pharma money/capitalist interests v anti vaxxers
Cash-only paranoids & gold standard fetishists v bitcoin “revolutionary” tech bros
Evangelicals v atheist/amoral “libertarians”
Russophobic Birchers v Putin lickers
Anti-semite white-nationalist isolationists v Netanyahu fanboys & Christian Zionists
MAGA proletarians expecting improvements v social Darwinist “entrepreneurs” who see them as under-exploited “losers”
Electric vehicle manufacturers v big oil and gas
Nihilist “state smashers” and asset strippers looking to profit from chaos v cop-loving big-budget security fetishists seeking ironclad “stability”
Whilst some of these people have early common goals, most diverge sooner or later.
At the centre of all these clashing worldviews is the court of King Donald, leaning towards the last person who flattered him on a daily basis.
Interesting times ahead.
I always think, where possible, it's important to get people to commit to certain ideas and metrics beforehand, so you have something to hold them to on the other side.All it really shows is that people who vote Trump are more likely to say they feel more hardship. Thing is I would bet money that many of those people will get worse off over the next 4 years, but still say they feel better off.
Can't be long until Joe Rogan is allowed in the room too.Jesus fucking christ, Channel 4 News is reporting Musk is already on some of the calls Trump's having with other leaders.
Jesus fucking christ, Channel 4 News is reporting Musk is already on some of the calls Trump's having with other leaders.
Yeh people should realise he's often a man of his wordI'm surprised that you're surprised. trump is just doing what he said he was going to do. There are no what can be described as surprises ahead.
I’ve made a point of switching to folks which is hopefully more inclusiveAye well, happens here too with 'lads' and 'guys' for example.
The process of changing it requires two thirds of congress and then it has to be ratified by a certain number of the state goverments so i doubt he has the numbers to do it legally. (He could get some "creative interpretation" by friendly judges i suppose)If Trump does manage to change the constitution & run for a 3rd term , then it would be Hello Obama ! & Trump knows he would lose .
The process of changing it requires two thirds of congress and then it has to be ratified by a certain number of the state goverments so i doubt he has the numbers to do it legally. (He could get some "creative interpretation" by friendly judges i suppose)
The 22nd Amendment says "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice" - hard to see even Trump weaseling his way past that, even if he appoints a couple of Supreme Court justices with outlandish ideas when Alito and Thomas die or retire and manages to get himself declared winner of the 2020 election
The 22nd Amendment says "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice" - hard to see even Trump weaseling his way past that, even if he appoints a couple of Supreme Court justices with outlandish ideas when Alito and Thomas die or retire and manages to get himself declared winner of the 2020 election
It says "the office of the president" not "the president" so clearly thats fineGive 'em time. I'm sure they'll work it out.
Celebration time for Trump supporters
Many other social media posts viewed by WIRED were deeply misogynistic in nature. The gender dynamics at play during this race were particularly stark, with Harris promising to safeguard women’s medical freedom while Trump aggressively pursued a young male demographic that has become increasingly culturally conservative.
One viral meme that was shared widely across platforms on Wednesday had the caption “RELEASE THE PROJECT 2025 HANDMAIDS TALE RAPE SQUADS.” “BREAKING: Millions of women report for handmaid duty following Trump’s stunning victory,” someone else wrote in Patriots.win. Some of these memes were also shared across Telegram channels for Proud Boy chapters.
Lauren Witzke, a far-right activist, shared an image on Telegram of Trump posing with a group of white male college students from Iowa State University. “Big shout out to men, especially white men, who turned out in force to put women back in their place.”
In a post on X to his nearly 100,000 followers, Evan Kilgore, an “ambassador” for Turning Point USA, hailed a potential coming crackdown on minorities, LGBTQ people, immigrants, and women. “Women, back to the kitchen; Abortions, illegal; Gays, back in the closet; Interracial marriage, banned; Illegals, pack your bags; Trannies, back to the asylums; Jesus, back in our schools,” he wrote. “We are so back."
Far-Right Donald Trump Supporters Celebrate His Victory with Violent Memes and Calls for Executions
“Many many many executions are warranted,” one Trump supporter wrote on Truth Social. “These traitors are a terminal cancer that MUST BE completely eradicated to make America healthy again.”www.wired.com
"Some of the congress members who voted for the amendment were not american citizens at the time."Give 'em time. I'm sure they'll work it out.
Celebration time for Trump supporters
Many other social media posts viewed by WIRED were deeply misogynistic in nature. The gender dynamics at play during this race were particularly stark, with Harris promising to safeguard women’s medical freedom while Trump aggressively pursued a young male demographic that has become increasingly culturally conservative.
One viral meme that was shared widely across platforms on Wednesday had the caption “RELEASE THE PROJECT 2025 HANDMAIDS TALE RAPE SQUADS.” “BREAKING: Millions of women report for handmaid duty following Trump’s stunning victory,” someone else wrote in Patriots.win. Some of these memes were also shared across Telegram channels for Proud Boy chapters.
Lauren Witzke, a far-right activist, shared an image on Telegram of Trump posing with a group of white male college students from Iowa State University. “Big shout out to men, especially white men, who turned out in force to put women back in their place.”
In a post on X to his nearly 100,000 followers, Evan Kilgore, an “ambassador” for Turning Point USA, hailed a potential coming crackdown on minorities, LGBTQ people, immigrants, and women. “Women, back to the kitchen; Abortions, illegal; Gays, back in the closet; Interracial marriage, banned; Illegals, pack your bags; Trannies, back to the asylums; Jesus, back in our schools,” he wrote. “We are so back."
Far-Right Donald Trump Supporters Celebrate His Victory with Violent Memes and Calls for Executions
“Many many many executions are warranted,” one Trump supporter wrote on Truth Social. “These traitors are a terminal cancer that MUST BE completely eradicated to make America healthy again.”www.wired.com
Fwiw, I've seen some people suggest "latine" as a better gender-neutral alternative, not least because no-one really knows how you actually pronounce latinx out loud:Agreed. I’m always suspicious of such terms and concepts, and to be honest I think US culture is generally weird about “ethnicity” (another term I’m suspicious of).
However I was referring to an article which was talking about a voter demographic, and that’s what I was trying to convey.
Incidentally I have since reread the article and it actually used the term “Hispanic”. Which is probably another can of worms.
I think whoever designed that graphic wanted to convey a bit too much information at one time, the overall effect ends up looking a bit Jeremy Bearimy:Useful graphic showing the changes in US party coalitions with the Democrats now the party of high education and high income voters.
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Fwiw, I've seen some people suggest "latine" as a better gender-neutral alternative, not least because no-one really knows how you actually pronounce latinx out loud:
But yeah, probably objections can be made to any term, not least because people want words to do different things.Latine - Wikipedia
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(I also sometimes write "lxds" with an x to make it gender-neutral and inclusive, but I only do that around people that I know well enough to be really annoying around.)
I think whoever designed that graphic wanted to convey a bit too much information at one time, the overall effect ends up looking a bit Jeremy Bearimy:
Assume that's a joke I'm not getting...(I also sometimes write "lxds" with an x to make it gender-neutral and inclusive, but I only do that around people that I know well enough to be really annoying around.)
It's probably more of a joke that doesn't make much sense tbh. It's playing with the way that people write words with gendered endings (like latina/o) with "x" to make them gender-neutral, but obviously doing that with "lads" doesn't actually work at all.Assume that's a joke I'm not getting...
Weird how no-one ever seems to take the female version of a term and uses that as the basis of the gender-neutral collective term.It's probably more of a joke that doesn't make much sense tbh. It's playing with the way that people write words with gendered endings (like latina/o) with "x" to make them gender-neutral, but obviously doing that with "lads" doesn't actually work at all.