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frogwoman said:
It was because I was complaining about right wingers and their opposition to animal rights (horse racing tories for eg) and she said she didn't see it as left vs right and gave trump's alleged environmental protection as an example? Anyway everything else I heard about Trump it said the exact opposite so I just wanted to know where she could possibly have got this from. :(
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i don't know about the horses bit, but Orang Utan above on this page spotted that what trump "opened up" was a large nature preserve to oil and gas exploration. if your friend is trying to use some verabl trickery to claim that trump is an evironmentalist becuase he "opened up" a preserve,, she's either a rhetorical failure or misinformed herself.
 
petee said:
i don't know about the horses bit, but Orang Utan above on this page spotted that what trump "opened up" was a large nature preserve to oil and gas exploration. if your friend is trying to use some verabl trickery to claim that trump is an evironmentalist becuase he "opened up" a preserve,, she's either a rhetorical failure or misinformed herself.
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Indeed
 
Declared a reserve was what she said- what I found was that some bipartisan legislation had declared something a reserve and Trump had little to do with it ...
 
She might be on about this:

President Trump Signs the Great American Outdoors Act, Preserving and Protecting our National Parks – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

The Great American Outdoors Act, which was a piece of bipartisan legislation, not fully Trump/Republican. It sounds fine enough and it did put the financial footing of US Government conservation on firmer ground but Trump promptly countermanded a lot of its provisions with a series of Executive Orders. Biden then cancelled the orders and reinstated the act.

By the end, Trump removed legal protection from a lot more land than he actually protected. Some 35 million acres were opened-up to exploitation during his term.
 
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pogofish said:
She might be on about this:

President Trump Signs the Great American Outdoors Act, Preserving and Protecting our National Parks – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

The Great American Outdoors Act, which was a piece of bipartisan legislation, not fully Trump/Republican. It sounds fine enough and it did put the financial footing of US Government conservation on firmer ground but Trump promptly countermanded a lot of its provisions with a series of Executive Orders. Biden then cancelled the orders and reinstated the act.

By the end, Trump removed legal protection from a lot more land than he actually protected. Some 35 million acres were opened-up to exploitation during his term.
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Yes, that's it I think.
 
Doesn't open for me petee

Separate topic: this looks like the logical extension of American fundamentalist Christians:

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Alarming Report Warns Of ‘Greatest Threat To American Democracy You’ve Never Heard Of’

An annual report from the Southern Poverty Law Center describes a burgeoning new form of Christian supremacy sweeping the country.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

A growing Christian supremacist movement that labels its perceived enemies as “demonic” and enjoys close ties to major Republican figures is “the greatest threat to American democracy you’ve never heard of,” according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Petcha said:
The prosecution must have done a seriously brilliant job given their star witness had been convicted of perjury in the past. All 34 counts. Insane.
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Not insane. The defence even admitted as much when winding up ("Please don't send Trump to jail!"). With handwritten notes and signatures proving Trump had first hand knowledge of the money being paid, it was almost certain that he would be found guilty on at least a number of counts. And yes, Cohen has a credibility problem, but he also has first hand knowledge of what Trump is really like, and I think when a liar repents, a jury is more forgiving than when a liar lies.
 
That "don't chuck him in jai!" gambit was a last desperate roll of the dice for the defence to try and force a mistrial by dividing the jury opinion on the verdict.
 
two sheds said:
Doesn't open for me petee

Separate topic: this looks like the logical extension of American fundamentalist Christians:

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Alarming Report Warns Of ‘Greatest Threat To American Democracy You’ve Never Heard Of’

An annual report from the Southern Poverty Law Center describes a burgeoning new form of Christian supremacy sweeping the country.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
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sorry, it's another example of a: bugbears, b: anti-senitism, c: desperation.

Investor George Soros, a funder of progressive groups and Democratic candidates, has been a Republican bogeyman for years.

He’s taken on a prominent role this year in Western Pennsylvania as Republicans significantly feature him in their efforts to defeat U.S. Sen. Bob Casey and U.S. Rep. Chris Deluzio in the region’s only two competitive congressional races this fall.

But the rise of antisemitism in the U.S. since the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks on Israel has sparked new concerns that singling out Mr. Soros, a Holocaust survivor, mainstreams the stereotype of the all-powerful Jew pulling the world’s strings.
 
Jeff Robinson said:
This is a fucking disaster, huge legal win for Trump

amp.cnn.com

Donald Trump election subversion conspiracy case indefinitely paused by Georgia appeals court | CNN Politics

A Georgia appeals court has halted the election subversion conspiracy case against former President Donald Trump and several of his co-defendants until a panel of judges rules on whether Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis should be disqualified, according to a new order filed on Wednesday.
amp.cnn.com amp.cnn.com
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This was always likely. American justice appears to be two things at once; thorough and deliberately convoluted.
 
Johnny Vodka said:
The Don will no longer be allowed a gun. :(
www.theguardian.com

Trump’s gun license to be revoked following conviction, media reports say

New York City police department to revoke Trump’s license after suspending permit to carry a concealed weapon in April 2023
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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He's been complaining about having his First Amendment rights taken away with the gag order, now he can complain about losing Second Amendment rights - just to fuck with him, they should violate his Third Amendment rights by quartering soldiers in his home without his consent during peacetime
 
Trump groupies get all hot and bothered after seeing the fuhrer at Arizona rally:

Extreme heat in Arizona sent 11 people to hospital as thousands waited to enter a campaign rally with former President Donald Trump.

As Trump took the stage just after 17:00 EDT (22:00 GMT) at a mega-church in Phoenix, the temperature was 111F (44C).
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www.bbc.co.uk

Eleven Trump rally attendees sent to hospital due to Arizona heat

Millions of Americans are under heat warnings as temperatures surge, including in Phoenix, Arizona
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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