Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
His boss is PutinDon't see why he gives a shit considering he doesn't want to be part of NATO.
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gosub
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The largest single market for arms in the worldDon't see why he gives a shit considering he doesn't want to be part of NATO.
Raheem
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All the countries that Putin my have his eyes on for the near term are fulfilling their 2%.
Mind you, I would assume Trump has any idea.
While I agree that Trump has proved to be incompetent, the fact that he has probably used up his fair share of competent people to work for him or do his bidding probably does not bode well for the world if he were to get in power again as it will probably lead to more irrational things happening and less people to rein him in as before. This has been seen already with the increased incompetence of his lawyers. The world was a pretty scary place to live in during his four years previously due to his craziness and unpredictability and with his narcissistic behaviour and lack of sensible people to work for him, it will likely get worse if he gets in again.
gosub
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Hopefully. If it comes to it...it just another one of those where shit goes on the balance sheet discussions....UK's 2% includes service pensions...if a lot of EUrope ain't hitting 2% then possibly military aid sent to Ukraine is in the Foriegn aid column rather than defense...
I'm not going to argue paying a Falkland vet isn't defence..its an important part of the modern military covernent (still a shame for those pre 1972)... But so are Javalins etc in Ukrainian hands etc. An audited NATO admin'd fund foer 'aid' of this sort could aid transparency..
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
He doesn't. He has no idea on the actual figures. US doesn't give anywhere near as much as he thinks it does and not even close in terms of percent/GDP
How Much U.S. Aid Is Going to Ukraine?
Nine charts illustrate the extraordinary level of support the United States has provided Ukraine in its war against Russian invaders.
www.cfr.org
gosub
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Figures are based on 2% spend ob GDP on Defence. I can see reasons why spend on Ukraine wouldn't be included...but as I said m8ght be a step forwardHe doesn't. He has no idea on the actual figures. US doesn't give anywhere near as much as he thinks it does and not even close in terms of percent/GDP
How Much U.S. Aid Is Going to Ukraine?
Nine charts illustrate the extraordinary level of support the United States has provided Ukraine in its war against Russian invaders.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
trump thinks the us has uniquely given 200billion. He's a fuckwit and a liar
gosub
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Off the back of the Putin 'interview' I think more could be done to outline the atrocities.. the nicking kids etc
tim
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Blair?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Those two arguments are nonsense though. The first ammendment does not cover incitement to imminent unlawful violence. The trial court and intermediate appellete court rejected Trump's first ammendment claim and not a single SCOTUS judge raised it in oral argument. It has no chance. The claim that section 3 of the 14th ammendment requires congressional action is similarly bogus, there is nothing in the text of the section that suggests that - quite the opposite (it says "Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability"). A brief filed by legal historians documented that the framers of section 3 did not require any additional actions by Congress to effectuate section 3 (see pages 14-27). The SCOTUS conservative majority claim they look to the original meaning of words in the constitution and 'history and tradition' to interpret it, but, as expected, in this case they ignored all that because it is inconvenient to them.
Also, the democrats and liberals had nothing to do with this case. It was filed by Republican and independent voters (including former republican politicians) using legal theories developed by conservative academics and judges. Whether the case is strategically wise is open to question, it will likely lose, as most predicted it would, but for political rather than legal reasons. Trump did engage in insurrection - he incited a violent mob to storm the capital. Conservatives turn a blind eye to this or actively support his violence (one of the SCOTUS judges' wives participated in this insurrection). Liberals, by contrast, are fearful of the violent backlash from Trumpist thugs and malicious, bad faith retaliatory weaponisation of the law threatened by Republican State officials. Fear and complicity will allow the would-be dictator to get away with this one.
This is a disaster. The criminal terrorist Trump gang are a fascist virus, you don't pander to fascists, you don't avoid confrontation or application of the law to them because you fear a backlash. History tells us that there is only one response to fascists in power or fascists on the brink of power - they must be totally wiped out, utterly shattered and mercilessly crushed by any means necessary. I fear many in America have not learned this lesson.
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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
My hope is that the liberal justices did some horse trading behind the scenes: if we join the conservatives in rejecting the insurrection ruling, this court must also reject Trump’s immunity appeal.
Whether SCOTUS takes up or dismisses Trump’s frivolous appeal - designed only to delay - may determine whether or not he is tried before November. If he is tried, he will be convicted. If he is convicted, based on the polls, it’s plausible he’ll lose enough votes to lose the presidential election. If he loses the presidential election then he can’t pardon himself. Hopefully he’ll then die in jail (four years should be enough to accelerate his death) and that will be the end of this rancid political career.
He will still leave behind a radicalised, fascistic Republican Party and his awful sons but hopefully cutting the head off the king will seriously weaken the barbaric, depraved cult he spearheaded.
Whether SCOTUS takes up or dismisses Trump’s frivolous appeal - designed only to delay - may determine whether or not he is tried before November. If he is tried, he will be convicted. If he is convicted, based on the polls, it’s plausible he’ll lose enough votes to lose the presidential election. If he loses the presidential election then he can’t pardon himself. Hopefully he’ll then die in jail (four years should be enough to accelerate his death) and that will be the end of this rancid political career.
He will still leave behind a radicalised, fascistic Republican Party and his awful sons but hopefully cutting the head off the king will seriously weaken the barbaric, depraved cult he spearheaded.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
I hope they were not so naive as to indulge such an idea. The horse trading would be irrelevant seeing as they are outnumbered by proven bad faith liars.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
True, but Chief Justice Roberts will really want a unanamous verdict in the insurrection case so the court won't be seen as what it really is: a partisan political institution. Liberals are outnumbered one way or the other on that one. BUT, Trump's immunity appeal has been made before the court at the same time they are deciding the verdict in the insurrection case. This is a window of opportunity for the liberals to use the minority power they have to pressurise the Conservative majoirity not to grant Trump's appeal: no unanamous verdict in the insurrection case until we reject the Trump immunity appeal. Four Supreme Court Justices are needed to grant appeal. Thomas and Alito are in the bag for Trump. Gorsuch likely is too. That means, if either Roberts, Barrett or Kavanaugh also vote to hear the appeal, Trump wins and may never be prosecuted. There's an awful lot to play for here!
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Oh, I'm not optimistic, just trying to find a silver lining as I watch the US gradually sliding towards new levels of depravity and barbarism
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Seems a number of people believe the Taylor Switt conspiracy.
ca.news.yahoo.com
One of the predictions came true, her boyfriend's team one.
Another was that she and boyfriend would publicly support Biden at half time did not happen.
1 in 5 Americans say Taylor Swift tied to deep state plot to reelect Biden
Nearly one in five Americans believe pop star Taylor Swift is tied to a supposed liberal deep state plot to reelect President Joe Biden, a new poll revealed. About 18% of those surveyed answered in the affirmative when asked: “Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help...
One of the predictions came true, her boyfriend's team one.
Another was that she and boyfriend would publicly support Biden at half time did not happen.
Yossarian
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Seems a number of people believe the Taylor Switt conspiracy.
1 in 5 Americans say Taylor Swift tied to deep state plot to reelect Biden
Nearly one in five Americans believe pop star Taylor Swift is tied to a supposed liberal deep state plot to reelect President Joe Biden, a new poll revealed. About 18% of those surveyed answered in the affirmative when asked: “Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help...
One of the predictions came true, her boyfriend's team one.
Another was that she and boyfriend would publicly support Biden at half time did not happen.
The proportion of Swift conspiracy believers almost matches the proportion of flat-Earth believers and round-Earth doubters from this 2022 poll, must be a fuck of a lot of people in the middle of that Venn diagram.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Well, voter roll purges were still happening as of November 2023: Virginia admits thousands of voters wrongly purged days before election
So I wouldn't be shocked if it was still going on.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
been at it for years a old conservative trick, we are not out of touch its the voting system that is wrong
Supreme court conservatives appear skeptical South Carolina Republicans discriminated against Black voters
Supreme court conservatives appear skeptical South Carolina Republicans discriminated against Black voters
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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
First criminal trial date for Trump announced for end of March:
This is the Stormy Daniels 'hush money' case - the least serious of all the charges brought against the serial rapist, insurrectionist and pedophile. On the plus side, as this is state prosecution (not a Federal one) so Trump will not be able to pardon himself even if he is elected. Could imagine SCOTUS 'revisting' that question in the event it happens though.
Donald Trump's first criminal trial begins in March. What will it look like?
The Republican frontrunner for president will juggle an untelevised six-week trial with campaigning.
www.bbc.co.uk
This is the Stormy Daniels 'hush money' case - the least serious of all the charges brought against the serial rapist, insurrectionist and pedophile. On the plus side, as this is state prosecution (not a Federal one) so Trump will not be able to pardon himself even if he is elected. Could imagine SCOTUS 'revisting' that question in the event it happens though.
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