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Do you consider yourself an audiophile?

Are you an audiophile?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 13.5%
  • No

    Votes: 83 36.1%
  • Audiophiles are deluded bullshitters

    Votes: 116 50.4%

  • Total voters
    230
Whilst I wouldn’t consider myself an audiophile.
My modest set up below
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is now relegated into the top of the wardrobe until the house is decluttered. A sad day.
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I honestly don't know how I'd react if someone told me that in person.
I hope it never happens or they might see that despite directionality, those cable can still tie a mighty fine noose.

A Maplins shop assistant/salesman once tried to flannel me about directionality, claiming you needed to check the resistivity of a length of speaker cable, & have the "path of least resistance" directed from amp to speaker. I walked out of the shop. Couldn't be bothered to tell him that a length of cable would have the same resistance in both directions!
 
A Maplins shop assistant/salesman once tried to flannel me about directionality, claiming you needed to check the resistivity of a length of speaker cable, & have the "path of least resistance" directed from amp to speaker. I walked out of the shop. Couldn't be bothered to tell him that a length of cable would have the same resistance in both directions!
A broken limb would’ve sufficed. ;)
 
never noticed any direction on their tour stuff, but I guess this is for the hifi specialist market.

None of the VDC cable we used on installs was sold as directional either. They've obviously realised there are suckers to fleece.

I must have installed several hundred km of this...(trade price is not as shown on the webstore).


eta: "sold as" because directional cable is stupid.
 
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recommendations on a half decent cd player, ideally with a dac . looking to buy second hand, have a budget of around a hundred quid.
 
I would go technics for second hand cd players, as they are pretty robust. I've never noticed difference in sound quality between any of them tbh so I just go on robustness. I've never seen one without a DAC... I guess they exist but are probably a crazy audiophile thing so way more than £100.
 
recommendations on a half decent cd player, ideally with a dac . looking to buy second hand, have a budget of around a hundred quid.
Your local charity shop would be my suggestion, but you can pick up any number of them on ebay for less than 50 quid. They're cheap as chips because nobody uses them anymore, and they all sound pretty much exactly the same, so spending silly money on one is silly.
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agreed, except that you'd be lucky to find one in a charity shop. cash convertors are a good bet, or gumtree and local pickup... not sure I'd fancy a CD player being couriered, they are a bit delicate, if the laser gets knocked it'll reject loads of CDs.
 
I'm not sure about them all sounding the same either, even though in my experience I haven't been able to tell the difference... It would makes sense that they would all sound the same if it was an all-digital device, but because most of them have an internal DAC (and so are doing a conversion and outputting an analogue signal) then surely that must be a variable? That's not audiophile bullshit, it will definitely vary.
 
I'm not sure about them all sounding the same either, even though in my experience I haven't been able to tell the difference... It would makes sense that they would all sound the same if it was an all-digital device, but because most of them have an internal DAC (and so are doing a conversion and outputting an analogue signal) then surely that must be a variable? That's not audiophile bullshit, it will definitely vary.
Imperceptible differences, although audiophools will say otherwise.
 
You should be able to pick up a marantz cd player for about that, that'd be my go to. Alternatively get one of the old Denon mini units, I got one of those off eBay for about £50 to use as an amp and it's great.
 
Imperceptible differences, although audiophools will say otherwise.
I bet if you fed audio through a DAC, then fed that signal through an ADC, and then did that a few times, eventually the audio would be degraded... like when you convert an image to a jpeg a few times. anyway that is irrelevant for most uses though.
 
You should be able to pick up a marantz cd player for about that, that'd be my go to. Alternatively get one of the old Denon mini units, I got one of those off eBay for about £50 to use as an amp and it's great.

i have a marantz, CC 4001 but i don't think that matters, they have a good reputation and mine's years old with no hiccups.
 
recommendations on a half decent cd player, ideally with a dac . looking to buy second hand, have a budget of around a hundred quid.
Anything. Unless a CD player is one of the very early ones, or broken, they all sound the same. Only difference might be better made ones having less physical transport noise, which would only really be an issue when listening at low volumes/music with a large dynamic range like classical.
 
Anything. Unless a CD player is one of the very early ones, or broken, they all sound the same. Only difference might be better made ones having less physical transport noise, which would only really be an issue when listening at low volumes/music with a large dynamic range like classical.

Exactly this.
Everyone knows it's the CDs themselves, and how you treat them, that makes the sound difference, not the CD player itself.

Make sure you get yourself something like Auric Illuminator gel Auric Illuminator for Optical Discs- Improves Playback Quality
The application of Auric Illuminator is an easy, two-step process. The first step is permanent except that the black ink can be removed using isopropyl alcohol. The applied gel in step two is semi permanent. However, for optimal performance it is recommended that the gel be re-applied for each playing, assuming a day has passed since the last playing.

The first step reduces ambient light and infrared light in the disc material. The Auric Illuminator light absorbing pen is used to blacken the inside and outside edges of the CD. (The outside rim and the inside of the center hole). This improves the signal to noise ratio of the reflected signal allowing for more accurate timing of the retrieved data.

The second step involves the application of Auric Illuminator gel. This unique product improves the optics by allowing laser light to enter and leave the disc with less reflection or scattering. This allows the pickup to "see" a stronger, more sharply defined signal resulting in fewer data retrieval errors.
($50 for 200 treatments)

or perhaps you are a more discerning audiophile and prefer to use the Essence of Music Treatment: Essence of Music - Two Step CD & Blu-ray Cleaner and Treatment

Ripping following Essence of Music application reveals and permanently captures enhanced details, spatial cues, and ambient intimacies of a live event to your media server – delicacies always present, but obscured within your disc, prior to Essence of Music application.
($125 for each bottle, can't work out if you need both or if they are marketed for different purposes somehow, doesn't say how many treatments it gives you)
 
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