To be honest, and I haven't made up my mind about this, but I'm not sure about the whole idea of putting pressure on the government. Seems to me that it might be relying too much on people who have a vested interested in putting profits first.
Do we support Insulate Britain?
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Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
At RTS Brixton I seem to recall that a bus was let through the blockade fairly early on.
I think "blocking ambulances" is a bit of a red herring - in the early stages of a roadblock both the traffic and the protestors would generally let them through afaik. After that, I assume the emergency services recalibrate and avoid the area.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
So no then, you can't explain it fair enough.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Not sure what other mechanism there is to roll out insulation nationwide? It's a reformist campaign.
Jeezus christ. They shouldn't have to avoid the area, it could lengthen their journey and cost lives. They're the emergency services FFS.
RainbowTown
Well-Known Member
Jeezus christ. They shouldn't have to avoid the area, it could lengthen their journey and cost lives.
Your cardiac arrest is being put on hold while we take a detour...............thank you for your patience.
I wonder how disruptive a revolution would be.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Jeezus christ. They shouldn't have to avoid the area, it could lengthen their journey and cost lives. They're the emergency services FFS.
If we banned private cars the emergency services would be able to get everywhere quicker.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Still not as disruptive as climate change is already.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
Is Climate Change really as bad as "they" sometimes make out that it is? The experts are saying there is huge evidence that Climate Change is due to current and past Human Society. The crux of it, is the question of whether Climate Change is due to us or or if it is due to the Earth going about its periodical changes.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Let's never do anything then?
Jeezus christ. They shouldn't have to avoid the area, it could lengthen their journey and cost lives. They're the emergency services FFS.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Of course it's caused by us. Natural changes to climate take many thousands of years.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
True.
...but if you're gonna get punched, arrrsted and imprisoned you might as well go harder than they currently are and really bring things to a grinding halt.
You could make the same argument against train strikes. Or any protest or campaign that causes any kind of disruption. The disruption is the whole point though.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
I also am of the opinion that this is so. However it hasnt yet been proven, as far as I know. But then if I am putting my rollers in I am a bit dim.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I was working in London for a week during the Extinction Rebellion protests in October 2019. 2 of the people I was working with were very late on the Wednesday due to XR blocking tube trains. One guy had climbed on top of one of them and glued his hand to it. Bit of an unwise move since some commuters had dragged him off (minus some skin presumably) and beaten him up.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Its been "proven" for decades.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh but what evidence do you have - what is there to support - your view?
gosub
~#
I remember the climate debate 20 years ago, and it was all about stopping it melting the permafrost and making it self perpetuating.....
Did notice rather a lot of Siberia on fire a while back.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Have you not been paying attention to the news recently? Entire parts of countries have been going up in smoke. Temperature records are being broken frequently. That kind of thing can only happen if global average temperatures are increasing.
it's been proven. it's just that the flat earthers own large parts of the media and donate huge sums to political parties in this case
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
I agree it points very much to this. However the Earth does cycle through Ice ages and what have you, periodically and some say it is this. I am of the opinion it is caused by us.
Disruption only causes resentment and has little or no impact. Economics has impact. Money. Wealth. Capitalism.
gosub
~#
Excellent motto
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Yep. That's why the disruption needs to escalate to the point it hits profit.
Serene
Slightly disgruntled
Yes I have and absolutely agree with you. I have been saying it for decades about the weather changing since I was a kid. However am just saying objectively that some say it might be because of the Earth going through its periodical Ice age thing ( which I personally dont think is so ).
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Who is saying that? Shills for the fossil fuels industry?
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