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Dispatches & Panorama programmes on ATOS disability assessments (30/7)

Frankie Jack said:
They did Tom. Started with that prick Purnell who is now chair of ippr think tank.
He was a useless politician and now he's part of the feckers inventing shit policies for these braindead blerts in Westminster to force through.
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Top-down social engineering by cunts who're even less subtle than the Victorian and Edwardian wankers whose shoes they're walking in. Clueless middle and upper class wankers with little experience of the lives the likes of us live (not that they give a fuck), but feel qualified to hand down their prescriptions for modifying our behaviour.
How anyone can still fool themselves that party politics is the solution to this situation is beyond me. These cunts are much of a cuntitude, whichever "party" they represent. A vote for any of them has pretty much become a vote for our own oppression, with each party offering a slightly different garnish on the shit sandwich they're feeding us.
 
Nothing yet on Sue Marsh's blog yet(diary of a benefit scrounger) maybe she is on one of the progs and has to keep stum...
 
treelover said:
Wow, excellent programme, decent trainer says categorically ''ESA is designed to take people off benefits'' and examples of one guy on 160 ml of morphine a day and still failing test...
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I'm on pause at the moment whilst cooking.

I reckon all these disabled who are capable of using one finger should show exactly what they can do with it to the DWP
 
Absolutely shocking. DWP firmly in the driving seat. A bit like when they denied having targets for sanctions.

So that was the one they weren't allowed to see first and this next, Panorama, they have vetted?
 
dispatches was great, I really hope that some of the mail/telegraph journalists and readers watched it.. intro to panorama seems ok.
 
started off well but iplayer fucked up and I'm watching it from the start again, lol.. first 10 minutes good though - man with empheczyma (sp? lung problem) got 0 points and passed on tribunal. Too much Chris Grayling but had a welfare rights adviser saying he's had 100% success rate on appeals, contrasting the DWP claim of 30%. Hopefully the second half of the program is as good.

The mail journalists etc. might well watch it tho and make them think again about what they are saying.
 
GRAAAAAAAAYYYLLLIIINNGGG :mad: man I don't know if I'd rather kill him in the face or IDS. Saying that his opinion of the high success rate of appeals is down to judges not looking hard enough to think of some kind of work someone can do. what a fucking arsehole cunting dickface.
 
Saw the end of panorama will catch up later .But it didn't look good for atos or dwp,government.Even the architects of scheme now have doubts
 
Captain Hurrah said:
Encouraging to see stuff like that, however limited. But how long can people maintain prejudice? Some can be pretty resilient.
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Given the amount of time the opposite kind of propaganda has been going on, it'll take some time I think, but it's really encouraging to see not just 1 but 2 programs saying what disabled people have been saying.
I think there will be a fair number of people who see this and will come out against the WCA as it is, whilst still believing that there are loads of people faking it, but that the assessment needs to be changed. I hope so anyway.
 
TV went on the blink for Panorama, but saw both lords of poverty, prof's gregg and harrington interviewed, defending the principles of the test/benefit, etc, the worst bit was a welfare rights officer from the Maudsley who said one of here clients when being assessed and informing them of multiple overdoses, was asked '' why aren't you dead?'

words fucking fail me..
 
I haven't finished watching it yet - in between the poverty pimps are stories from people found fit to work, including stephen hill who died 39 days after assessment. The commentary has been - imo - very much against atos/wca so far - to me it's taking a line of "there are scroungers, but it's a small number and look at these people who can't work and are getting zero points, can that be right?". I don't know how much of that is confirmation though. They are explaining WRAG at the moment.. here is paul gregg that I've not seen before..
 
BigTom said:
Given the amount of time the opposite kind of propaganda has been going on, it'll take some time I think, but it's really encouraging to see not just 1 but 2 programs saying what disabled people have been saying.
I think there will be a fair number of people who see this and will come out against the WCA as it is, whilst still believing that there are loads of people faking it, but that the assessment needs to be changed. I hope so anyway.
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Yes, it was the seminal Panorama doc 'Britain on the sick' which helped pave the way for the reforms...

and of course it was Gregg and Harrington's friends, NL who instigated them including Purnell who is a mate of Greggs*...

Professor Paul Gregg is responsible for the new sanctions regime instigated by Purnell, if we had had a decent student movement there would have been protests at his Uni...
 
BigTom said:
GRAAAAAAAAYYYLLLIIINNGGG :mad: man I don't know if I'd rather kill him in the face or IDS. Saying that his opinion of the high success rate of appeals is down to judges not looking hard enough to think of some kind of work someone can do. what a fucking arsehole cunting dickface.
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Maiming either of these two cuntz is now going to be my main goal in whatever life I have left. I'm going to prove Grayling right in so much as I am capable of doing one last job.
 
treelover said:
needs to be up YT, BBC one said it couldn't say for certain, wrong, the Atos employee on dispatches was clear and a credible source...
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All the more credible because they *thought* they were training new medical staff.
 
Watched both programmes back to back, now I really need a drink.
 
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