I've known and been pally wih plenty of lager-drinkers for years (in normal, pub-open years anyway)
But that's irrelevant in the ale-drinking Corbyn's case. His conspiralunacy gives us ale-appreciators a bad name
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I've known and been pally wih plenty of lager-drinkers for years (in normal, pub-open years anyway)
But that's irrelevant in the ale-drinking Corbyn's case. His conspiralunacy gives us ale-appreciators a bad name
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
except it doesn'tI've known and been pally wih plenty of lager-drinkers for years (in normal, pub-open years anyway)
But that's irrelevant in the ale-drinking Corbyn's case. His conspiralunacy gives us ale-appreciators a bad name
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
some people don't even drink alcohol - are they in the wrong gentlemen's club?
I fully admit that I'm weird about beer and always have been -- I've liked the good stuff (even one or two better examples of lager, sometimes!
) And I tend to get on well with others who do. I'm not the only one either.Even weirdlier though, I'm currently drinking nothing
gosub
~#
Less so, fois gras people are very different to beans on toast people, or huel people
Like myself at the moment and (nearly) all December
And as I'm sure you can perfectly well guess, I've never been in whatever a "gentleman's club" is in my chuff.
You're just doing your usual 'target WofW thing now. It's tedious.
And just as irrelevant to this thread as my earlier posts were.
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
They certainly cannot be trusted.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
So Muslims, Hindus and Christians of certain degrees, Sikhs, Jains and reformed alcoholics aren't to be trusted?
If that's connected to my earlier post (?), I was only talking (irrelevantly) about one of the reasons why I and a couple of others used to get along with Piers Corbyn way back when. Admittedy in the pub
-- and it was in pre-conspiraloon days too.He did talk shit about climate change back then mind you, so I became glad I didn't see much of him after a certain point.
Moving too fast this thread anyway. Goodnight all
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I had a dream where I went to my local pub and found they had a secret section where they were upstairs doing archery (??) Having parties and playing darts, and you were only allowed up there if you weren't wearing a mask and thought covid didn't exist, I wondered up there in the dream and it all got very nasty and I only woke up when I realised I had no idea who the guy in the dream was whereas I know who the people running the pub are.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Organic/GM free is one of the biggest cons going.
Also, hippies turning out to be right wing cunts isn’t exactly a new thing, is it?
Its such a common feature that I can't help thinking that it is tbh. Strong weed and isolation, detachment from reality.
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Reefer madness.
Self serving cunts
Same with me , he was a fixture around Elgin Av,Villa road etc in the late seventies and appeared to be a genuinely helpful and pleasant bloke. His weather forecasting stuff raised some eyebrows. Now he seems to have gone full blown loon.I've actually had one or two good things to say abiut Piers Corbyn earlier this year on here, and in the past.
Not in any way defending his climate change denial stance or anti-vaccination stance I should emphasise
Just that back in the day he was a genunely nice person, good squatter-activist, good pub-lover/good beer-appreciator/campaigner etc. =-- I and one or two mates knew him/drank with him a bit.
But!! After that image from that disgusting leaflet above?
Utterly beyond defending
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
You can be a perfectly nice, pleasant, kind person and still a loon.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
What makes some people susceptible to conspiracy theories is probably worthy of a sensible and separate discussion thread tbh, it's a massive topic and is something that needs dealing with properly. There's been discussion on here in various threads and plenty of reasons have been pointed to already.
As a counter to it, has anyone come across the Covid Champions project? I was chatting to someone about it last night who thought it was doing a very good job in their area in countering mis-information. It's kind of peer education, people volunteer to attend a short fact bsed training course and then they go back to their area/workplace/etc. and talk to people when it comes up, and can put posters and do talks. Apparently started in Newham and has worked well in various areas around the country.
As a counter to it, has anyone come across the Covid Champions project? I was chatting to someone about it last night who thought it was doing a very good job in their area in countering mis-information. It's kind of peer education, people volunteer to attend a short fact bsed training course and then they go back to their area/workplace/etc. and talk to people when it comes up, and can put posters and do talks. Apparently started in Newham and has worked well in various areas around the country.
bimble
floofy
I am really interested in this too, the hippy / wellness overlap with this stuff. I think it is massive. Being stoned is definitely not a requirement (though it might help with the hours absorbed by youtube videos). Believing in stuff like homeopathy / reiki probably a good start to being 'open minded' about these things but still begs the question.
I haven't met very many humans this year but of the 'covid sceptics' i've encountered almost every one has been via the yoga teacher next door. One of the things that is true too is that women are very much more likely to buy into this stuff than men, statistically. Some of that will probably be that it's more likely women googling vaccines when children are at the age to be innoculated, but it's got to be more than that.
klang
klang
on a side note a probably for a different thread - my sister (in Germany) ordered some organic seeds for her allotment off a random web shop and then got lots of fash propaganda and covid-hoax sent to her email. it wasn't hard to figure out it was linked to her purchase. it ws much harder to find a shop that openly distanced itself from the stuff and actively counter-acted the trend by doing active anti-fash work. i think in Germany that stuff is a lot more developed and more difficult to consciously avoid / actively oppose.
klang
klang
maybe as a stoner hippy / pawn yes. Surely the people photoshopping the Auschwitz gate and designing star of david car stickers are anything but nice, pleasant and kind. They are the ones to oppose / watch out for as they are normalising a very dodgy propaganda.
klang
klang
and the people distributing and sporting them.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Industrial, chemical monocultures. Factory farming. GM solutions to all agricultural needs, provided by giant corporations whose sole aim is more profit. These are the big cons.
klang
klang
the point today isn't really about the vacc itself though....nor about Auschwitz or masks.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I think talking in terms of 'cons' in anyway at all is part of the problem tbh. Pointing out the 'big cons' as some kind of analysis is exactly part of why we're in this mess.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
If I put all my hippyish friends and acquaintances on a spectrum with 'eco' at one end and 'new age' at the other that is a pretty reliable predictor of their views on Covid. Pretty much every single one who has had any kind of spiritual leaning is in the anti-mask anti-vax camp. The only exceptions are those with pre-existing medical conditions, who are understandably feeling pretty let down / isolated. Given that these things (green politics / eco living / new age healing) have often gone hand in hand in the past (eg things like the Green Gathering) I do wonder how this sometimes acrimonious split will play out in these circles.
Then I think there is another slightly different camp - bloody minded libertarians, usually men, who have spent their life trying to avoid the state, avoid proper jobs / careers, travellers, on festie scene, drug dealers etc and they just cannot conceive of any measure from the government being benign or a good idea and can't tolerate any sort of restriction on their freedom whatsoever. (often people with a fucking awful record in personal relationships roo)
Then I think there is another slightly different camp - bloody minded libertarians, usually men, who have spent their life trying to avoid the state, avoid proper jobs / careers, travellers, on festie scene, drug dealers etc and they just cannot conceive of any measure from the government being benign or a good idea and can't tolerate any sort of restriction on their freedom whatsoever. (often people with a fucking awful record in personal relationships roo)
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Tbf, my 4 sentence riposte was hardly an analysis.
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