Yea hilarious that I’ve had complaints from Chinese students as to being compulsory fingerprinted and issued an electronic ID card. It’s great that Labour destroyed our civil liberties to such an extent that fucking people from China with it’s record on rights are complaining about our country. Ha ha ha.
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Yea hilarious that I’ve had complaints from Chinese students as to being compulsory fingerprinted and issued an electronic ID card. It’s great that Labour destroyed our civil liberties to such an extent that fucking people from China with it’s record on rights are complaining about our country. Ha ha ha.
cesare
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Maybe they thought there wouldn't be the same pass system here. Pass system - that's right. They'll be chuffed to bits when your lot introduce that.
It's not Lib Dem policy
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
It's in your manifesto
You should vote for them becuase they are capable of working with people they disagree with to compromise and get the polices you vote for enacted in government.
Your talking about the policy of regional immigraiton? Sorry I thought by pass system you meant the Tories cap on immigration.
anyway i'm off to bed, to tired to have any more abuse thrown at me tonight 
Give the coalition a chance, I think there will be many aspects of Lib Dem policy you will be happy with, and will be an improvment on what we had under 13 years of Labour ot 18 years of Indypendant Tory rule.
Give the coalition a chance, I think there will be many aspects of Lib Dem policy you will be happy with, and will be an improvment on what we had under 13 years of Labour ot 18 years of Indypendant Tory rule.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
It depends on your reasons for not supporting the Tories. If those are strong ones, then it would have been daft to vote for the LibDems because their politics at local level (which are all that LibDems voters could go by) are very similar to the Tories'.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Yes, the regional cap on immigration. Where immigrants are allowed to work restrictions. Pass system.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
I voted Lib Dem and I'm not ashamed of it. If a few more Labour/Lib Dem constituencies had won the picture would have looked completely different. The state we're in is 90% due to Labour/Brown being shit rather than any other reason.
little_legs
Поехали!
this id card is a replacement of a visa stamp in their passports.
and yeah, it's hypocritical of the chinese students to complain about being finger printed (and eye scanned for your reference), but that's not my main point. my main point is that if the party you support does not abolish id cards across the board, i can't accept that what you refer to as civil liberities are their priority. my other point is that personally i've never heard any foreign students (and i know quite a few) or a spouse of a british national (i only know 4) complain about id cards. and i don't say this in defense of id cards, i am just reflecting on my experience.
ska invita
back on the other side
Just checked the poll and saw that according to that noone has voted libdem, so ill fess up - not exactly a secret - i voted libdem, though as ive already said it was a vote for pr not clegg. furthermore its a safe lab seat. for me pr is the big issue as i dont want to vote for any of the big 3, i want to vote for a smaller party that better represents me. theres lots of other aspects to defend etc. but ive done it elsewhere - just felt like i should at least chip in on this thread. i dont have a problem standing by my thinking - send any abuse on a postcard.
of course politics doesnt begin and end at the ballot box. mainstream politics is a dirty shitty business, and its great to just rise above, not vote, spoil your ballot, dont encourage them etc., but what i tried to do, in my tiny insignificant way, was chip in towards a reform of the system to make it less of waste of time than it is, and open the door for small parties, and what i want, more radical left wing politics within the parliamentary system.
amen
of course politics doesnt begin and end at the ballot box. mainstream politics is a dirty shitty business, and its great to just rise above, not vote, spoil your ballot, dont encourage them etc., but what i tried to do, in my tiny insignificant way, was chip in towards a reform of the system to make it less of waste of time than it is, and open the door for small parties, and what i want, more radical left wing politics within the parliamentary system.
amen
Right ska invita, the lads will be around soon to discuss your vote. If you choose to leave the area that is alright by us, but don't waste any time, baseball bats cost money and we haven't got much.
ska invita
back on the other side
dont do that - forget what i said above - actually Billy Bragg made me do it! he said he knew where i lived and hed be watching me and if didnt hed dress me in purple at guitar point!
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
This is pathetic teenage posturing. What use is your abstract "freedom" when you can't afford a roof over your head.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
More crap. They're linked to access to resources. What use is "freedom" if you don't have access to land, resources or even food.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
This is pathetic even by your standards.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
You're coming out with some embarrassing right wing shit. How can people trade without access to resources? This is about class - who has access to the means of production. You're spouting extreme right wing free market ideas. What the fuck happened to you?
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Embarrassing
fractionMan
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lol
you're deluded if you think the lib dems are doing anything other than propping up a tory government with tory polices.
Which is fine if that's the reason you voted lib dem or you were conned by the mighty clegg. But to embrace it as a Good Thing and a Progressive Move Forwards whilst claiming it's any different from what the tories would do alone is embarrassing.
If I was a member of the lib dems I'd be jumping up and down in rage, not justifying a bunch of self interested power hungry privileged twats.
Sensible way of ensuring local services are not overwhelmed which results in the rise of the likes of the EDL or BNP who pray on the upset caused by too many new people arriving in one place.
fractionMan
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you've turned into a doublethinking robot.
mummy that man's scaring me.
mummy that man's scaring me.
Unenforcable, unless border police spread across the country demanding to see the papers of anyone who looks "foreign".
People gain access to resources which are not readily available through trade and work. If someone has a lot of resources it becomes in their economic interests to trade them with other people. Relying on a state bureaucracy for the distribution is inefficient.
I still think you need a social welfare safety net, and that the market does not thrive when it comes to providing infrastructure but generally i’ve become a liberal and see the merits of free-markets in the supply and trade of most goods and resources.
Some of it would work on trust, if you are saying to a new immigrant this area is a good place to settle as it will have more work and services then that's one way it works. Another is as the proposal states to provide a work permit when getting a job in the new area.
Personaly I have more of a free-movement approach, but this address the concerns that a large amount of the electorate has in areas where there are a large number of immigrants placing strains on local services.
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