Big majority at the mo' though?
Rumour just floated on the radio that Lib Dems might not even contest the by-election, therefore making it a straight 'either/or' vote on civil liberties...
Strange times...
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Big majority at the mo' though?
Rumour just floated on the radio that Lib Dems might not even contest the by-election, therefore making it a straight 'either/or' vote on civil liberties...
Strange times...
No he wont
I can think of numerous examples of Politicians reneging on previous promises.
A Tory will be standing, he hasnt left the party or anything.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If the tories and lib-dems aren't standing who do you think will win then? Labour or the BNP or the independent? Given that all the tories and lib-dems will vote for him? No risk at all.
Force so many by-election it in effect becomes a general election you mean? I'm not sure what the constitutional position would be, though I suspect they're happy with just the one symbolic battle.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No constitutional problem as Labour has an overall majority. All the Tories could stand down tomorrow and Labour would still be able to govern. Now if enough Labour MPs were to have the guts to stand down...
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
My initial reaction at this is wow, good on him this is just what we need.
But the cynic in me thinks its a conservative party ploy to have their cake and eat it too. But my cynicism usually exceeds reality.
But the cynic in me thinks its a conservative party ploy to have their cake and eat it too. But my cynicism usually exceeds reality.
Cameron is safe as leader, if he loses the next election he's gone anyway so the benefit to Davies's reputation is a price well worth paying for what a manouver which may lead to Browns ousting.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yep and I reckon David Cameron will be watching how popular this makes David Davis with the Tory membership with interest...
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Yes, that's what I meant. I'm interested in what the constitutional position would be, cos I'm not sure
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
There wouldn't be any problem. Just a series of by-elections and no tory representation in the commons.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Yep, Labour MPs too.
Can a government continue without a shadow government though?
In effect it would be a national referendum on the government, I cant see in that hypothetical situation how the PM could continue to govern - if they got a kicking at the polls imho he'd have no option but to call an election.
There is a constitution, we just dont have a written one.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yep
Speak for yourself, i too am worried about 42 days, etc, not least because it wilof curse be used in other contexts, but its not my main concern and i am sure most of the UK is not too concerned, as Davies may find out. I really would like to see the same level of concern about the dismantling of the welfare state, but in the Uk, civil liberties and individual rights have always been priveleged.
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Technically yes, practically I very much doubt it.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It wouldn't be because it would only take place in a minority of the seats by definition.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Well done and fair play to him. What a shame the left has been unable to produce anyone capable of this - thus leaving the mantle of ""defender of liberties" to a tory. What a shocking indictemnt of the state of the left today and the times we live in.
Shame he is a very right wing Tory though, is this a new bid for the leadership?
No. It's a bid to commit the Tories to a libertarian position. Genuinely not for personal gain.
CyberRose
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Lol @ people on this thread actually thinking this Tory is being sincere and principled!
If you think this is anything more than a publicity stunt then you're dumb
That the Lib Dems won't stand a candidate is even more telling...
Haltenprice and Howden is a safe Tory seat, only the Lib Dems come anywhere near, so it's basically Labour vs Tory in an extremely pro-Tory seat
So when the inevitable happens everyone can say "see the whole country opposes Labour"
If you think this is anything more than a publicity stunt then you're dumb
That the Lib Dems won't stand a candidate is even more telling...
Haltenprice and Howden is a safe Tory seat, only the Lib Dems come anywhere near, so it's basically Labour vs Tory in an extremely pro-Tory seat
So when the inevitable happens everyone can say "see the whole country opposes Labour"
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Exactly. There is no constitution.
Unwritten mey arse. PM doesn't like what another democratically elected body is doing, they can just scrap it as Thatcher did with the GLC. No written constitution=no constitution.
CyberRose
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No it won't! Not in the slightest! That's how stupid people (ie the media etc) wil view it, the reality is it's a very very safe Tory seat that they would never lose to Labour in a million years!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's not going to happen, and one of the many many reasons is that the Tory party as a body is currently reliant on the money it recieves off the govt to continue existing - not to mention individual pigs never voting for the farmer to take away the trough.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Shame he is a very right wing Tory though, is this a new bid for the leadership?
And if so, could he go on to be the UK's "Gorbachev" of sorts?
Can you imagine if Labour got a kicking in 200+ by elections? they would still have a majority in the house but I think the public pressure (whipped up by a media in overdrive) would force a General Election.
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