Critiquing Oasis

[skyscraper101]

Looks like Australia too now

 

[mojo pixy]

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Canada/US/Mexico dates above.

But where's the joy? It's music ffs, give us a smile you mardy cunts!

Oh yeah of course it's Oasis, sorry I forgot. There is no joy.

 

[krtek a houby]

Was traumatized yesterday, after having to sit through a trailer for the Oasis Knebworth film, after having to sit through a trailer for the latest Trump movie. Both times felt like booing, but it's kinda looked down upon. Guess both are popular in their own ways. The former are always in the CD bargain bins.

 

[hitmouse]

So in completely unsurprising news it looks like North America will also see some shows next year.

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I love the lack of enthusiasm in that slogan, they might as well have just gone with "oh for fuck's sake".

 

[Sue]

Was traumatized yesterday, after having to sit through a trailer for the Oasis Knebworth film, after having to sit through a trailer for the latest Trump movie. Both times felt like booing, but it's kinda looked down upon. Guess both are popular in their own ways. The former are always in the CD bargain bins.

Believe the Trump film presents him in a very bad light.

 

[skyscraper101]

I mean, I always thought SNL was crap but this might be the just about worst thing I’ve ever seen on it.

 

[Humberto]

This is. close. the. sun.

 

[ska invita]

I mean, I always thought SNL was crap but this might be the just about worst thing I’ve ever seen on it.

I wonder if anyone has ever died from cringing?

 

[BigMoaner]

 

[stethoscope]

This piece by Miranda Sawyer fits in with this thread - Blur v Oasis was only part of the story: the case for a wider – and wilder – Britpop canon

 

[ska invita]

This piece by Miranda Sawyer fits in with this thread - Blur v Oasis was only part of the story: the case for a wider – and wilder – Britpop canon

By coincidence I listened to this last night



She's a big Oasis fan all said and done

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The article and the book extract do read like someone talking about rave/dance music from an essentially mainstream rock/pop viewpoint IMO. 'We're really open minded - we also like Prodigy and Underworld you know'. Those tracks were regulars at any pissed up student night at the time from what I recall, and you'd never hear anything else along those lines (including anything else by Underworld or any of the earlier Prodigy tracks.)

Not saying there's anything wrong with that really but I'm not seeing any real insight there tbh.

 

[ska invita]

The article and the book extract do read like someone talking about rave/dance music from an essentially mainstream rock/pop viewpoint IMO. 'We're really open minded - we also like Prodigy and Underworld you know'. Those tracks were regulars at any pissed up student night at the time from what I recall, and you'd never hear anything else along those lines (including anything else by Underworld or any of the earlier Prodigy tracks.)

Not saying there's anything wrong with that really but I'm not seeing any real insight there tbh.

She wrote for Smash Hits iirc so..... And tbf it says in the book extract Rave was bigger and more important than Indie but journalists didn't know how to write about it, producers wanted anonymity etc (also they didn't like it of course , she doesn't say that though!)

 

[BigMoaner]

enough oasis from me but this song and this performance reminded me of somethign. it reminds me of a coke rush around about when you've done the first gram and move on to the second. that sort of thumpy rhythem argh

urgh, this is almost perfect. velocity. brilliant. the instrumentals. the vocals.

 

[Ted Striker]

It's like they found a way to be EVEN more cunty...

...Not settling for the real pisstake of (the not widely known practice of) essentially having an in-house 'official' tout whereby Ticketmaster have it as a legal move whereby they will agree to sell x% through Ticketmaster and y% through Ticketmasteragogo the reseller site...Like that's in all major events, just in case they weren't making enough money with the 20% service fee for enabling users to print their tickets at home...

But the new flex which they have seen work, and will now be their new revenue frontier for everywhere (including throttled queues to build up the wait time for the bands with the numerous or fanatical following)...To actually surge price at the END of the queue journey. So You've queued for hours, (so the fanaticism/desperation is proven, along with the fear of the sunk cos of wasted effort), and at the last minute, they pull the rug away and triple the ticket price. For no good reason but because they can.

My mate bought 4 tickets, and paid 450 or so each...He's quite relaxed about it (he does ok for himself, but that's not the point), as one comfort is that you can punt them on (not profiteering) fairly quickly (tho he needs to do it soon, see last paragraph), but just the pisstake of thinking you've got in a queue for a ticket costing (already a fuckton by any reasonable stretch) 150, and after 4 hours of stressing about it all, they hit you with the inflated price, knowing the actual amount at which you would be willing to forego this band you've worked yourselves up for the challenge to see, is pretty high. I bet the number of people that got to the queue and said "450? Fuck that" is relatively small.

I'm absolutely at peace with not going to see them - tbh I got sucked into the hype and tbh the challenge of it all, before realising...I'm not that fussed about seeing them? They have done legendary gigs, but they've done hundreds of stinkers. The Oasis live experience is a better memory than an experience IMO. I saw them in 05 and they were...Good, but not 'Earls Court 97' good or 'Gmex Be Here Now' good.

And, of course they are pretty hard to like as people - and now they have literally pissed on their fans.

Also...I haven't heard this really mentioned (and obvs kept hidden by the band to ensure the UK gig extortion can happen to it's fullest)...But shirley the obvious turn of events (and my plan) is going to be the announcement of the rest of the international gigs for the world tour - I reckon it'll be like how it was easier/cheaper for the Septics to fly to UK and watch Taylor Swift in UK/Europe, just go watch the band in Hamburg, Paris, Barcelona etc etc etc (and get a city break out of it). You think Oasis will crash the servers of Ticketmaster Espania?

In a 'liking wine' update, I do now actually have tickets for London

 

[rutabowa]

urgh, this is almost perfect. velocity. brilliant. the instrumentals. the vocals.

let's not go too far! it is good at what it does for sure, but it's not the holy grail or anything

 

[BigMoaner]

let's not go too far! it is good at what it does for sure, but it's not the holy grail or anything

That last “come oooon” tho

 

[Humberto]

That last “come oooon” tho

It's the same as Ocean Colour Scene, it doesn't work as music in itself. It's nothing. Just a moment. Compare to the Stone Roses some years earlier, or the Las:

 

[Humberto]

 

[Humberto]

kinesis>stasis

 

[Humberto]

 

[Humberto]

 

[Humberto]

I feel fine

 

[skyscraper101]

Looks like they’re also playing Korea and Japan next year. I bet that’d be a way better experience than Britain and relatively free from the coked up bucket hat knobs that will inevitably descend on London and Manchester etc.

 

[BigMoaner]

enough oasis from me but this song and this performance reminded me of somethign. it reminds me of a coke rush around about when you've done the first gram and move on to the second. that sort of thumpy rhythem argh

was a big fan in the 90s then dropped them and they haven't aged well. hadnt listed to them in a decade before the reunion. i generally now foudn their music dull.

....but i have a feeling that you could put any guitar band from the 90s on stage to perform a song, one after the other, and none would grab people as much as this little perfomance. have watched it almost daily since the reunion. something sublime about the sonic power of it. the asthetic, so half arsed, so relaxed. they were living at their mums still at the time. brilliant.

 

[BigMoaner]

also i just realised why it is called Columbia. not to reduce a country to a drug, but this song actually sounds like cocaine. does to me anyway.

 

[ska invita]

coked up bucket hat knobs that will inevitably descend on London and Manchester etc.

I know this is the Critiquing Oasis thread but that's a bit of a rude thing to say about the Gallaghers

 

[ddraig]

also i just realised why it is called Columbia. not to reduce a country to a drug, but this song actually sounds like cocaine. does to me anyway.

except the country is Colombia

 

[skyscraper101]

Apparently the track is named after a hotel called 'Columbia' in London.

 

[krtek a houby]

Looks like they’re also playing Korea and Japan next year. I bet that’d be a way better experience than Britain and relatively free from the coked up bucket hat knobs that will inevitably descend on London and Manchester etc.

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They're more associated with the bargain buckets over here, these days