Critiquing Oasis

[Lotte]

Quite interesting that as far as Britpop - Blur & Pulp, I'd suggest, had equal appeal to all genders, and still do... there were also quite a few female fronted Britpop bands. Meanwhile the 'Real Music Fans' were sulking about Radiohead not getting the credit they deserved..

<Hey Ho>

I remember that as well. John Harris wrote a review of Space's Tin Planet in Select where a third of it was complaining that they didn't sound like Proper Music like Radiohead (which really upset 14-year-old me, and you can't compare Radiohead to Space because they're miles apart musically). IIRC Blur were more popular with girls, not that Oasis didn't have girl fans, but the comment was more inspired by the kind of people Anais Gallagher was complaining about, the ones who want to gatekeep Oasis.

Also, yes, Britpop did have women musicians BUT there was an awful lot of sexism around and they were objectified in a way male ones weren't. I've got Miki Berenyi's book and she experienced some appalling sexism during that time, because Britpop also coincided with lad culture. Emma Anderson was very self-conscious about her body because stylists would give them outfits that were too small for her, and she wasn't remotely fat, just normal.

 

[Steel Icarus]

No, they signed with Creation Records in 1993.

Without that label backing, they probably wouldn't have had the means to record and release their debut album a year later.

I took "the year of" to mean when they became well-known, released Supersonic and Definitely Maybe etc. I was pretty into the latest stuff indie music wise and I certainly heard nothing of them until they had that fight on the ferry in about Feb 94, prior to the release of Supersonic.

 

[Hollis]

Also, yes, Britpop did have women musicians BUT there was an awful lot of sexism around and they were objectified in a way male ones weren't. I've got Miki Berenyi's book and she experienced some appalling sexism during that time, because Britpop also coincided with lad culture. Emma Anderson was very self-conscious about her body because stylists would give them outfits that were too small for her, and she wasn't remotely fat, just normal.

Pearl Lowe's book "All that Glitters" is also a 'good' read with a similar story.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I took "the year of" to mean when they became well-known, released Supersonic and Definitely Maybe etc. I was pretty into the latest stuff indie music wise and I certainly heard nothing of them until they had that fight on the ferry in about Feb 94, prior to the release of Supersonic.

A girl I knew was working in the music industry and she played me Columbia in 93; She was very excited by this new band. The music press was just about on to Oasis at that point and they were making waves before the fight on the ferry. They toured through the back end of 93, a mixture of headline and support slots. They did a session for BBC Radio 5's Hit the North show in August 93. By the time of the Ferry fight they already had a reputation for being lairy.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Plus Arab Strap are excellent and gave a brilliant gig in Leeds earlier this year

Not a band I previously liked particularly, but the latest album is superb. One of the best of the year.

 

[ddraig]

Ooof!!

Gary Glitter may earn £1m from Oasis royalties

Harriet Gibsone: Opening track on Oasis' second album (What's the Story) Morning Glory? samples the convicted singer's lyrics

www.theguardian.com

"Gary Glitter has reportedly earned £1m worth of royalties from the Oasis track Hello which uses a sample of his lyrics.

According to the Sun, the singer will continue to earn a significant amount of money for many years as a result of the song, which is the opening track on Oasis' second album (What's the Story) Morning Glory?. It includes the lyric "Hello, hello, it's good to be back", a line taken from Glitter's 1973 hit Hello, Hello, I'm Back Again."

 

[Wilf]

Ooof!!

Gary Glitter may earn £1m from Oasis royalties

Harriet Gibsone: Opening track on Oasis' second album (What's the Story) Morning Glory? samples the convicted singer's lyrics

www.theguardian.com

"Gary Glitter has reportedly earned £1m worth of royalties from the Oasis track Hello which uses a sample of his lyrics.

According to the Sun, the singer will continue to earn a significant amount of money for many years as a result of the song, which is the opening track on Oasis' second album (What's the Story) Morning Glory?. It includes the lyric "Hello, hello, it's good to be back", a line taken from Glitter's 1973 hit Hello, Hello, I'm Back Again."

Yeah, always amazed and appalled me they haven't binned that track. Given that music exists almost entirely in electronic form, removing a track could be done so easily. Unless I'm missing something obvious.

 

[Hollis]

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[story]

 

[Idris2002]

Yeah, always amazed and appalled me they haven't binned that track. Given that music exists almost entirely in electronic form, removing a track could be done so easily. Unless I'm missing something obvious.

Didn't Kate Bush edit one of her records to take out words spoken by Rolf Harris?

 

[Lotte]

He's on one of the songs on Aerial, so yeah, sounds about right.

 

[Jagshakti]

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Steve McDonald still out there courting, I see

 

[Wilf]

Didn't Kate Bush edit one of her records to take out words spoken by Rolf Harris?

About 10 years ago, as they removed a memorial plaque to Savile in Leeds Jackson's statue outside Craven Cottage and the rest, I proposed they open a Museum of Redacted Public Statuary. Here's one for the Digital Redactions floor.

 

[Silas Loom]

About 10 years ago, as they removed a memorial plaque to Savile in Leeds Jackson's statue outside Craven Cottage and the rest, I proposed they open a Museum of Redacted Public Statuary. Here's one for the Digital Redactions floor.

There’s one of those just outside Budapest, full of Stalins and heroic Russian workers, so the business model works.

 

[Wilf]

There’s one of those just outside Budapest, full of Stalins and heroic Russian workers, so the business model works.

I've got an option on Colston's statue and have just offered Oriel College a fiver for the Rhodes effigy. I'll probably just mix them in together, 'Imperialists and Nonces Wing'. Prince Andrew should be a shoe in.

 

[Silas Loom]

I've got an option on Colston's statue and have just offered Oriel College a fiver for the Rhodes effigy. I'll probably just mix them in together, 'Imperialists and Nonces Wing'. Prince Andrew should be a shoe in.

You could design the paving to convey the Venn intersection between the two categories, just for Andrew.

 

[Wilf]

You could design the paving to convey the Venn intersection between the two categories, just for Andrew.

Yes, I can just imagine the voiceoever in the headset: 'As you pass the fragments of Lord Mountbatten's boat on your left, you approach the culmination of the tour. You will note that the atmospheric controls are set to Arid'.

 

[stavros]

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Off topic, but newsagents never know quite where to put the Eye. Mostly I see it with The Spectator, New Stateman, National Geographic, etc, but your picture suggests it's in the soap mags. I've also seen it on the top shelf.

 

[Indeliblelink]

If this is a taste of next summers Wembley gigs I'm glad I didn't get a ticket.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

If this is a taste of next summers Wembley gigs I'm glad I didn't get a ticket.

That’s pretty great, what do you expect? Liam has never been about being a perfect singer.

 

[Sweet FA]

That’s pretty great, what do you expect? Liam has never been about being a perfect singer.

Agree. That's what he sounds like.

 

[maomao]

Yeah. Don't be so snobby. He's working class, you can't expect him to be able to sing. Working class people don't like that sort of thing.

 

[mojo pixy]

If this is a taste of next summers Wembley gigs I'm glad I didn't get a ticket.

He is the walrus

 

[gosub]

If this is a taste of next summers Wembley gigs I'm glad I didn't get a ticket.

Noel to win by knockout during encore

 

[skyscraper101]

Can’t reach those high notes any more. Nothing wrong with that of course but the idea of paying upwards of £150 to see Oasis not in the prime baffles me.

 

[Voley]

They're one of the biggest bands of the 90s that obviously still mean a lot to people. It'll probably be the last chance people get to see them. People are prepared to pay for that. It's really not that difficult to understand.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If this is a taste of next summers Wembley gigs I'm glad I didn't get a ticket.

Fuck me that's bad. There are only about four notes in that song and he's missing three of them.

 

[Elpenor]

If this is a taste of next summers Wembley gigs I'm glad I didn't get a ticket.

Stop Singing Your Heart Out

 

[BigMoaner]

“At the time”. I like it. Energy mandem, energy.

 

[rutabowa]

That’s pretty great, what do you expect? Liam has never been about being a perfect singer.

another agree, no interest in oasis but that is far from a bad live vocal performance... particularly for that kind of hanger venue. heard loads worse.