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The first time I heard Rock and Roll Star was when it was thundering out from external speakers from a pub during the Notting Hill Carnival. A blast. The titchy Gallaghers are a couple of knob heads though. Not sure their music has stood the test of time.
 
domestos said:
The first time I heard Rock and Roll Star was when it was thundering out from external speakers from a pub during the Notting Hill Carnival. A blast. The titchy Gallaghers are a couple of knob heads though. Not sure their music has stood the test of time.
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Ah now, my poor cousin Steve (smoked and drank himself to death at 47) met them both when they were visiting the ancestral seat in Co. Mayo, and he said they were a sound pair of lads.
 
the Definitely Maybe documentary is quite entertaining. Noel clearly isn't stupid and has some good lines. Liam... well he definitely has stage presence.
 
There was also a good Britpop documentary (I think with a slight "where are they now?" angle) which had Los Hermanos Gallaghers juxtaposed with Damon "Whinger" Albarn.
 
Wibbling rivalry 1994.

Noel: Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Let's talk about music!

Liam: (in background) You want to be, you want to be, you want to be Keith Richards. You want to be Keith Richards. Admit it. Admit it. You want to be Keith Richards. Admit it. Admit it. Admit it. Admit it.

Noel: Let's talk about music. Let's not talk about you being a hard guy. Let's talk about music. Let's talk about music! Let's not talk about you being an 'ard guy, let’s talk about music, let’s not talk about you being an ‘ard man, let's talk about music.

Liam: You're getting hung up about...you're getting hung up about a situation that occured on a boat!

Q: Let's go back to where we were before, when you said...that people saying "I go on Oasis' bus and you can't move for drugs and all that, and they're fuckin’ up all night..." You're up for that? You're up for that? That's the side that you will go..

Noel: Right. People are sat, right, in England, right now, in flats across this country, whether it be Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, London, Leeds, Liverpool, Sheffield...in rooms like this. And they've all got their drugs out. that's no fucking...that is no big...that is a part of life.

Liam: Exactly. So shut the fuck up , man!

Noel: I'm not talking about that!

Liam: Shut the fuck up, man, you're just contradicting yourself..

Noel: I’m not, I’m not, I’m not..

Liam: ..You've had too many fuckin’ drinks, right. The thing is, I don't want to be classed...I don't want to go on about how I'm this, how I'm a hard fucker, and I'm this... I'm in this band to make fucking music, but that thing will come along with it. It always does.

Q: The Who hated each other you know?

Liam: Yeah, well I hate this bastard.

Q: Is that important to you? Is that what fires this band up?

Liam: Yeah. That's what it's all about. That's why we'll be the best band in the world, because I fuckin' hate that twat there.

Q: The Who used to go on about how much they fuckin' hated each other.

Noel: The same goes for you (laughing)

Liam: Yeah, well I fuckin' hate him. And I hope one day there's a release where I can smash fuck out of him, with a fuckin' Rickenbacker, right on his nose, and then he does the same to me, coz I think that we're stepping right up to it now. There's a fuckin' line there and we're right on the edge of it.

Q: How often do you have arguments like this?

Liam: Every fuckin'...every day. Every day. Every time...

Noel: Hourly.
 
Sweet FA said:
Wibbling rivalry 1994.

Noel: Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Let's talk about music!

Liam: (in background) You want to be, you want to be, you want to be Keith Richards. You want to be Keith Richards. Admit it. Admit it. You want to be Keith Richards. Admit it. Admit it. Admit it. Admit it.

Noel: Let's talk about music. Let's not talk about you being a hard guy. Let's talk about music. Let's talk about music! Let's not talk about you being an 'ard guy, let’s talk about music, let’s not talk about you being an ‘ard man, let's talk about music.

Liam: You're getting hung up about...you're getting hung up about a situation that occured on a boat!

Q: Let's go back to where we were before, when you said...that people saying "I go on Oasis' bus and you can't move for drugs and all that, and they're fuckin’ up all night..." You're up for that? You're up for that? That's the side that you will go..

Noel: Right. People are sat, right, in England, right now, in flats across this country, whether it be Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, London, Leeds, Liverpool, Sheffield...in rooms like this. And they've all got their drugs out. that's no fucking...that is no big...that is a part of life.

Liam: Exactly. So shut the fuck up , man!

Noel: I'm not talking about that!

Liam: Shut the fuck up, man, you're just contradicting yourself..

Noel: I’m not, I’m not, I’m not..

Liam: ..You've had too many fuckin’ drinks, right. The thing is, I don't want to be classed...I don't want to go on about how I'm this, how I'm a hard fucker, and I'm this... I'm in this band to make fucking music, but that thing will come along with it. It always does.

Q: The Who hated each other you know?

Liam: Yeah, well I hate this bastard.

Q: Is that important to you? Is that what fires this band up?

Liam: Yeah. That's what it's all about. That's why we'll be the best band in the world, because I fuckin' hate that twat there.

Q: The Who used to go on about how much they fuckin' hated each other.

Noel: The same goes for you (laughing)

Liam: Yeah, well I fuckin' hate him. And I hope one day there's a release where I can smash fuck out of him, with a fuckin' Rickenbacker, right on his nose, and then he does the same to me, coz I think that we're stepping right up to it now. There's a fuckin' line there and we're right on the edge of it.

Q: How often do you have arguments like this?

Liam: Every fuckin'...every day. Every day. Every time...

Noel: Hourly.
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Christ they were fucking stupid :facepalm:
 
Idris2002 said:
They were the Last Rock Group, the end of the genre as both a creative force and a social catalyst - the last Last Gang in Town.
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Well that's bollocks.

It's all cyclical. Give it another 10 years and they'll be someone else along who sounds like the Beatles.

Only it won't be the Beatles, they'll have grown up with parents that played Oasis
 
ska invita said:
rock may be dead
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I don't think it is or will ever really be tbh. It'll have a rest occasionally, and will morph regularly, but it's just so obvious, easy and cheap to grab a guitar / keyboard / bass, some drums, get a singer and bang out a couple of chords together. It's fun, good for the mental health, and if you do it well people tend to love it. It doesn't have to be a career (easily forgotten)

You're right about the metal though. We're insulated from it in Britain because metal is about as uncool as music can be, here. But globally it's huge, and yes .. angry, painful noise for the end of the world is extremely popular, who could've guessed lol

If that's metal then oasis is lying on it's back too wasted to move or care.
 
mojo pixy said:
I don't think it is or will ever really be tbh. It'll have a rest occasionally, and will morph regularly, but it's just so obvious, easy and cheap to grab a guitar / keyboard / bass, some drums, get a singer and bang out a couple of chords together. It's fun, good for the mental health, and if you do it well people tend to love it. It doesn't have to be a career (easily forgotten)

You're right about the metal though. We're insulated from it in Britain because metal is about as uncool as music can be, here. But globally it's huge, and yes .. angry, painful noise for the end of the world is extremely popular, who could've guessed lol

If that's metal then oasis is lying on it's back too wasted to move or care.
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Oh yeah rock will never die, but as a "cultural force and social catalyst" i think its not really up to much right now, that im aware of
 
ska invita said:
Oh yeah rock will never die, but as a "cultural force and social catalyst" i think its not really up to much right now, that im aware of
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Yeah it's definitely having a rest :thumbs: I give it five maybe ten years before a bunch of brats are pissing a whole new generation of psycore- and drill-raised parents off with guitars all over again
 
Sweet FA said:
Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music! Music!
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I don’t own any Oasis records, but do have that single. Saying 'music!!' in a Manc accent is an in-joke in our house.

Speaking of which, my 16-year-old daughter and her mates all love Oasis. No interest in bucket hats or the lifestyle or any of that. Just the music.

Music!!
 
Whatever you think about Oasis there is something very rewarding/therapeutic from a human point of view being drunk and bawling out a song in a big group

And their songs are fit for that purpose

Caveat

Soundtrack of my early twenties, but went to nebworth and thought it was sheeeite
 
As a result of this thread I whacked on a CD in my elderly 7 series yesterday. Driving in the sunsheeeine sunroof open windows down with Oasis blasting made me feel, briefly thirty years younger although in reality in full swing of a poor man's mid-life crisis.
 
bellaozzydog said:
Whatever you think about Oasis there is something very rewarding/therapeutic from a human point of view being drunk and bawling out a song in a big group

And their songs are fit for that purpose

Caveat

Soundtrack of my early twenties, but went to nebworth and thought it was sheeeite
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From the 2004 Glastonbury thread :D
Sweet FA said:
I'll whisper this so I don't get flamed to a crisp.

I'm really looking forward to Oasis. They always bring back great memories of mad nights on pills and speed and lager. Call me a sad old fuckwit (no, go on, please, I like it), but that was a great time wasn't it? All that bollocks hype about Britpop, Live forever, Blur vs Oasis etc, Slide Away, good pills, running down the hall faster than a cannonball (OK, that bit was rubbish, I grant you), first forays into coke (for me anyway), Cool Britannia etc. It was all flagrant arse, obviously, but a right laugh nonetheless.

No? Erm...OK...I'll scurry back under my rock...
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Even though I think they are crap (first album is decent, second ok, all the rest were awful) I did see then live at reading a few years ago and they were really good. The bickering between the two brothers was hilarious and better than the music.
 
I saw them at Wembley in 2000 which was pretty good, especially as they had Doves and the Mondays in support. I consider it to be the watershed beyond which none of their music appealed so it was good timing.
 
I saw them a few times in the 90s but at festivals and they were like cartoon characters playing at being hard lads. There was always better acts on the bill - one quality evening featured a line up of:

Super Furry Animals
Beck
Primal Scream
Oasis

Even though me and Mrs SFM were rushing on a great pill and enjoyed the evening, we lasted 2 songs of Oasis and then decided to call it a day. Beck and Primal Scream were fucking superb (Vanishing Point had just been released I think so they were well on top of their game).
 
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