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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Agree, though as a side issue there will be profiteering. Just heard this morning of one person buying 70 lots of antibacterial gel from Aldi in Redcar and then somebody else coming in and taking the rest of the stock (about 100 bottles).
Fez909
toilet expert
It's hard isn't it? I get panic attacks, which obviously affects my breathing.I've got fibromyalgia, which includes 'flu like' symptoms such as muscle aches, tiredness and fuzzy thinking. It's a bit like my body is playing a practical joke on my brain at the moment.
So I get a bit hot or feel a bit dodgy, then my mind starts wandering and suddenly I've got flu-like symptoms with 'fever' and 'breathing difficulties' - perfect storm for a false positive.
It feels like if I did get Covid19, I would not know whether it was a panic attack or actual infection. But I imagine real pneumonia is nothing like the breathing problems I get when I'm panicking, and that's what I keep telling myself. I'll just know.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Liked, but not 'liked'. Yeah, that sounds familiar, I have a tendency to let 2+2=5 when thinking about my own health. Strangely enough, the corona thingy hasn't wormed its way into my consciousness yet, so I'm managing to keep things in perspective. Dunno, maybe there's something about being less concerned about external threats than the ones I generate in my mind.
8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
Imaginary health issues can be a welcome diversion from darker existential concerns.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
'Fuck the environment, it's me piles I'm worrying about'.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Where do these profiteering cunts typically show up?
As I’ve mentioned before my background is more in comms / academia though I have taught science communication, and tbh the whole thing looks comms-led to me. And pretty mediocre it is too in those terms. The government is clearly worried there could be a massive political downside to this; their vote may not have cared that the NHS was on the brink of collapse in December, or elected to blame it on the phantom of ‘health tourism’ - ‘Get Brexit Done’ - but if the system collapses under the weight of additional pressure it’s hard to see how the government can get off the hook.
At a political level, it’s worth bearing in mind Johnson has consistently ‘failed up’. He hasn’t been a success in orthodox terms in anything he’s done, other than win a majority at a general election (but demagoguery - which is his thing - doesn’t amount to the skillset you need in a crisis). As Mayor of London he wasted tonnes of money and engaged in scandalous behaviour with public finances that still hasn’t been appropriately examined. As Foreign Secretary he was disastrous (ask Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe). That’s before we get into his career as a journalist. More than this he hasn’t got successful executive experience.
A sufficient proportion of the public were prepared to put that to one side in December; they may be about to reap the whirlwind. It could be argued (with some justice) that Corbyn didn’t have successful executive experience either, and indeed that many Prime Ministers don’t (Blair’s first job in government was Prime Minister), but I suppose the difference with Johnson is he has had executive experience and been consistently disastrous in it. Telling people to get stuffed in Mayoral questions etc might make an amusing clip on the news (for some), but it isn’t what it takes in a major crisis.
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
There's been a big drop in reported cases in China recently. The big peak on this graph, was when the changed the method for reporting cases.
The European Respiratory Virus Surveillance Summary (ERVISS)
This interactive dashboard provides a weekly integrated epidemiological summary for influenza, RSV and SARS-CoV-2.
bimble
floofy
eBay ?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Just because the cunt Trump says he's doing something, it doesn't mean he is...
8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
I think in this case he most likely is, but the numbers will be way off.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
There was a bit of a furore last week when a teacher went to work, despite being ill
The teacher visited a medical institution on Feb. 12 after feeling nauseous and she was diagnosed with a cold.
She continued to teach, but was hospitalized on Feb. 19 after her condition worsened. She tested positive for the coronavirus on Feb. 21.
Chiba school to suspend classes for 2 days after teacher infected : The Asahi Shimbun
Do US workers not get paid leave, isn't it? I can imagine some also going to work, so as not to lose pay.
A lot of American workers don't get paid leave. With pay levels being what they are, losing even one day of pay can be difficult.* Even if you do have leave, the company culture may frown on using it.
* I have a coworker who recently came to work with pneumonia and a diagnosis of C-diff. She was afraid to lose work because her husband had just lost his construction job a week before. She choose to feed her kids over taking care of herself.
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maomao
普費斯
I've got twelve days off starting tomorrow even though I'm not going anywhere just because I need to use some up. Vote Bernie.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I think I saw an example of corporate price-gouging. I had to fill a prescription last night and had to wait quite a while. I checked out the cold and flu remedy section and found prices had been raised to roughly double what they usually run. The odd thing is that they all had yellow sale cards claiming they were reduced from an even higher price. But, people will probably pay it. While I was waiting they had three people come in wanting flu shots, thinking that would help prevent the virus and they had a sign posted that said "We do not have masks".
bimble
floofy
Interesting, India will stop exporting the drugs they fear they may need for their own citizens.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Coronavirus update: World pharma supplier India restricts export of some ingredients, drugs | India Business News - Times of India
India Business News: India, the world's main supplier of generic drugs has restricted export of 26 pharmaceutical ingredients and drugs made from them, including paracetam
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I will if they let me.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Other possibilities exist too, some of them may not be misinformed about the flu vaccine. Because its still common for the public health advice now to include a recommendation to get flu vaccine, but not to stop covid-19. Rather its to reduce the burden of flu on the system, protect against being infected by both the flu and this coronavirus at the same time, etc.
bimble
floofy
Indian politician yesterday saying again cow urine (& being a good Hindu) might cure you. There’s going to be loads of this isn’t there.
www.indiatoday.in
Cow urine, dung can treat coronavirus, says Assam BJP MLA
At a time when the coronavirus outbreak has claimed over 3,000 lives globally and a few cases have been detected in India, Suman Haripriya, a BJP MLA from Assam, said that coronavirus is an airborne disease and it can be cured by using 'gaumutra'(cow urine) and cow dung.
www.indiatoday.in
8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
Has probably mixed up 'eating garlic' with 'being a vampire'.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Interesting, India will stop exporting the drugs they fear they may need for their own citizens.
Coronavirus update: World pharma supplier India restricts export of some ingredients, drugs | India Business News - Times of India
India Business News: India, the world's main supplier of generic drugs has restricted export of 26 pharmaceutical ingredients and drugs made from them, including paracetam
The pharmacist I spoke to last night said they were already expecting shortages from the outbreak in China for fairly common drugs.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
I used to work with a Finnish? guy who used to eat garlic sandwiches every morning. I often had early morning meetings with him and made sure I kept at least a metre away from him at all times.
Mordi
Amoral adventurist
Isn't avoiding 'smelly' foods like garlic and onions part of many diets in India? I think it's one of the things the Hare Krishnas borrowed from Jains.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Did he ever get sick?
8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
I guess if anyone incubating a communicable disease won't go anywhere near you, that could have a protective effect.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Korea's 31 deaths have this breakdown
80+ 6
70-80 11
60-70 7
60 and under 7 of which 1 in 40s
A colleague of whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang died yesterday.
Apparently 2 of the isolation hospitals (for patients with symptoms) are on the verge of being emptied of patients
Hubei Health Commissioner says the plan is to gradually phase them out by transfering the serious patients to hospitals and discharging the cured.
Chongqing health department announced that someone had contracted the virus after sitting behind an infected passenger for a very short time on a public bus on 19 January.
80+ 6
70-80 11
60-70 7
60 and under 7 of which 1 in 40s
A colleague of whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang died yesterday.
Apparently 2 of the isolation hospitals (for patients with symptoms) are on the verge of being emptied of patients
Hubei Health Commissioner says the plan is to gradually phase them out by transfering the serious patients to hospitals and discharging the cured.
Chongqing health department announced that someone had contracted the virus after sitting behind an infected passenger for a very short time on a public bus on 19 January.
