elbows
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Ugh I think they fucked it up earlier, its increased by 18, not gone up from 18 (it was at 34 already, not 18).
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Ugh I think they fucked it up earlier, its increased by 18, not gone up from 18 (it was at 34 already, not 18).
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
I think the British government is taking it all too lightly.
On cases
Apparently 10% of infections in Japan are asymptomatic.
In one instance where data on asymptomatic infected individuals was revealed, a study published Feb. 12 in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology suggested that the group accounted for only 1.95% of all lab-confirmed infections. In contrast, this group made up 10.2% of total infections in Japan’s figures as of Wednesday, or 19 of 186 infections, excluding those from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in the port of Yokohama.
China's stats now do not include them.
However, multiple studies from both Chinese and overseas researchers have been published, suggesting that individuals infected with Covid-19 can be contagious even if they do not feel ill.
So it's frightening but possible for someone to be perfectly normal, not sense they are infected come back from central Italy have no symptoms doesn't need to self-quarantine as a result and then goes out and about to infect tens of others.
On cases
China’s Decision to Leave Asymptomatic Patients off Coronavirus Infection Tally Sparks Debate - Caixin Global
Not releasing figures for those who have tested positive for the disease but show no symptoms could hamper other countries’ efforts at disease control, experts argue
www.caixinglobal.com
Apparently 10% of infections in Japan are asymptomatic.
In one instance where data on asymptomatic infected individuals was revealed, a study published Feb. 12 in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology suggested that the group accounted for only 1.95% of all lab-confirmed infections. In contrast, this group made up 10.2% of total infections in Japan’s figures as of Wednesday, or 19 of 186 infections, excluding those from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in the port of Yokohama.
China's stats now do not include them.
However, multiple studies from both Chinese and overseas researchers have been published, suggesting that individuals infected with Covid-19 can be contagious even if they do not feel ill.
So it's frightening but possible for someone to be perfectly normal, not sense they are infected come back from central Italy have no symptoms doesn't need to self-quarantine as a result and then goes out and about to infect tens of others.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
two weeks sustainance for me, Fortnum and Mason haven't seen me in their store since I was a nipper
Supine
Newt Member
Some maths on the US outbreak...
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Baronage-Phase
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I keep calling it Corvid-19
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I was chided something rotten because apart from my phone I didn't have any torches or candles.
I hadn't expected to be without electric, but of course I was.
Since then I have bought a head torch, and will be looking out for candles tomorrow night.
And, I am not stocking up, well I am, I bought some more tins tonight on my way home. Only those with the easy open though, the last time I had an old fashioned one I managed to cut myself quite nastily when washing it up.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I keep calling it Corvid-19
I've done that once or twice. Its just another sign that its not a very good name, and it hasnt really caught on that well either. Unlike the virus itself
Fez909
toilet expert
Someone who is a friend of a friend is living exactly this scenario above.
Came back from Northern Italy last week and was told not to come to work. Full pay etc, so no hardship.
Has been carry on her life as if she's just on holiday for two weeks. Absolutely no self-isolation, which was the point of her going home.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Saying lots without saying anything at all
Fez909
toilet expert
They should have just called it SARS 2. It would have scared people into action sooner and thats what the virus is called anyway...I've done that once or twice. Its just another sign that its not a very good name, and it hasnt really caught on that well either. Unlike the virus itself
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
I sure it won't be offended.I keep calling it Corvid-19
weltweit
Well-Known Member
That is similar to the situation at the moment which is that someone can be incubating the virus, be infectious to those around them but have no symptoms. They may go on to have symptoms but they may not.
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
Someone who is a friend of a friend is living exactly this scenario above.
Came back from Northern Italy last week and was told not to come to work. Full pay etc, so no hardship.
Has been carry on her life as if she's just on holiday for two weeks. Absolutely no self-isolation, which was the point of her going home.
She's a cunt.
End of.
That really makes me mad.
I overheard a 6 yr old immunocompromised kid telling another kid that he would be the first to die. He was matter of fact about it. "You'll be ok...you have a good immune system. I think I'll probably die."
Broke my heart hearing that.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Baronage-Phase
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sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Someone who is a friend of a friend is living exactly this scenario above.
Came back from Northern Italy last week and was told not to come to work. Full pay etc, so no hardship.
Has been carry on her life as if she's just on holiday for two weeks. Absolutely no self-isolation, which was the point of her going home.
Name and shame to neighbours and Public Health as a first step.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
In March?
Unless you bought crates and crates of gin that is remarkably restrained.
Sloe gin lasts 3 days on average
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
The scariest thing is that the latest people in the UK to be confirmed infected are (apart from the few in the same family) from all over.. Hertfordshire, Scotland, Essex, West Yorkshire, London, Gloucester... I mean what's the chances that these people from all different places are just wandering around by themselves only ones infected??
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Sounds like it was her workplace issuing that (sensible!) instruction - cos PHE advice in that situation would be that she's fine to carry on as normal, wouldn't it (no symptoms)?!
Don't mean she's not a dickhead but actually, I reckon LOADS of people would see that as a paid for extended holiday, when it doesn't break any current advice.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Here's a diagram from the article - go hard and go early is the answer for a new virus no host immunity
Peak is sharper where social distancing is not enacted, but 'the economy' is 'back to normal' quicker after more deaths.
This is influenza and not coronavirus which is perhaps more contagious or lethal as yet we don't know we should be on the side of precaution.
It is or was A Level biology.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
I've been surprised at how few deaths there've been in Japan in total 7, not counting Diamond Princess.
bimble
floofy
Here's a diagram from the article - go hard and go early is the answer for a new virus no host immunity
Peak is sharper where social distancing is not enacted, but 'the economy' is 'back to normal' quicker after more deaths.
This is influenza and not coronavirus which is perhaps more contagious or lethal as yet we don't know we should be on the side of precaution.
It is or was A Level biology.
What do you think the reason is for the government statements which seem to say they intend to not do anything much here for at least a month?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Japan was always likely to be on the list of countries whose numbers I would take with an extra pinch of salt, and its certainly been that way so far.
But I'm talking about number of cases as much as deaths. I will wait and see how their numbers evolve.
After all, South Korea has managed to detect thousands of cases, but were on about 22 deaths last time I checked.
Given the lag between getting infected, getting sick, and dying, I must remember to allow additional time for death statistics vs confirmed case stats.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I tend to think that at least I won't be among the people making things more difficult by mobbing the stores.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
My read of Japanese culture is that if told to stay home and self-isolate, they'll tend to comply. Americans would be using the enforced time off to go shopping or some shit, and feel entitled to do so.
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Treacle Toes
Time
Saying lots without saying anything at all
Honey monster in a suit.
Mrs B teaches a Japanese family english (via skype) and has had an email from them this morning complaining about how shit it is, and that the kids are out playing 'cause there's nothing they can do to stop them.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
My feeling is they see it as swine flu 2 not SARS 2. They might come to their senses by which time it will be far too late.
