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[LDC]

Meanwhile in Spain, where the average daily new cases have gone up from around 200 to over 4,600, thousands of anti-vaxxers and other associated nutters held a protest in Madrid against covid restrictions.

Spain’s Sanitary Staff Tell Anti-Covid Protesters “Come To The Hospital and Watch How the People Die”

“Anger and sadness” is what Belen Padilla, a doctor and the vice president of the College of Doctors of Madrid”, recalls feeling when witnessing the images of thousands of anti-COVID protesters.

www.euroweeklynews.com

“We’re Not Scared” Hundreds of Anti-Maskers Manifest in Spain’s Madrid to Protest Against Mandatory Face Masks

TODAY, hundreds of anti-maskers joined forces at the Plaza de Colon in Spain’s Madrid to protest against having to wear face masks. All the protesters were seen not abiding to safety distances or…

www.euroweeklynews.com

Heard from a friend of mine in Spain that the covid is fake/not as bad as they say/anti-vax stuff is quite big over there. Big hippie health food kind of scene he was partly putting it down to.

 

[frogwoman]

Heard from a friend of mine in Spain that the covid is fake/not as bad as they say/anti-vax stuff is quite big over there. Big hippie health food kind of scene he was partly putting it down to.

They had such a bad time though? Although I guess that was only in certain regions?

 

[LDC]

They had such a bad time though? Although I guess that was only in certain regions?

Yeah, I don't know. I guess looking for logic in people's responses can be a difficult task!? Probably for some people it's a way of coping with the fear tbh. Spain does have a sizeable rural hippie thing going on too, who probably had no direct experience of anyone being ill. That and an already existing distrust of the State and large institutions etc. maybe fed into it as well?

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah, I don't know. I guess looking for logic in people's responses can be a difficult task!? Probably for some people it's a way of coping with the fear tbh. Spain does have a sizeable rural hippie thing going on too, who probably had no direct experience of anyone being ill. That and an already existing distrust of the State and large institutions etc. maybe fed into it as well?

I think for some people it's definitely a way of coping with the fear.

 

[hash tag]

From 4 months ago Manager at major UK food supplier says staff who stay at home may be sacked
fast forward to today Dessert factory coronavirus cases rise to 72
bastards.

 

[elbows]

Mutated coronavirus may be less deadly, expert suggests

Singapore infectious disease doctor says evidence suggests spread of D614G mutation coincided with drop in death rates.

www.aljazeera.com

For context, this is the same mutation that we have heard about since quite early on. So there are a lot of articles about it so far. And its not clear to me that it will have different outcomes to what we saw in the first wave, although I cant quite rule that out completely either.

The UK certainly had both strains for a while but samples from places like France and Italy found mostly the D614G mutated strain. But the amount of gemone samples available in those countries was a lot lower.

If the terminology causes confusion, Im under the impression that D614G means the D switched to a G, so its not unusual to see that strain also labelled as G614.

Below is from https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30820-5

 

[Petcha]

I caught a glimpse of trump on the news just now claiming the US is handling Covid better than New Zealand. Rather random. And er, a bit wrong perhaps?

 

[Cloo]

“All These Rich People Can’t Stop Themselves”: The Luxe Quarantine Lives of Silicon Valley’s Elite

Travis Kalanick is throwing (outdoor) parties, private-jet owners are hopping from safe zone to safe zone, and dinner party hosts are administering 15-minute COVID-19 rapid tests—all business as usual. “Coronavirus is a poor person’s virus,” says one source.

www.vanityfair.com

Coronavirus is a poor person's virus apparently

Rich people in 'able to buy solutions to the rest of the world's problems for themselves' shocker

 

[Cloo]

I caught a glimpse of trump on the news just now claiming the US is handling Covid better than New Zealand. Rather random. And er, a bit wrong perhaps?

Worse still, but sadly typically, he implied they fought it hard to make some kind of point to him. Because everything revolves around Donnie.

 

[phillm]

This looks like one big FU to the world and more pertinently the US from China who have the tools, track and tracing and ruthless authoritarian control to rigorously control the virus. I can't imagine this wasn't allowed unless there was negligible risk.

Wuhan hosts massive water park party as Covid concerns recede

Thousands of Wuhan revelers cram into a water park for outdoor rave more than eight months after Covid-19 was detected at the former ground zero.

edition.cnn.com

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah I don't think this pool party was a good idea, personally

 

[Yu_Gi_Oh]

This looks like one big FU to the world and more pertinently the US from China who have the tools, track and tracing and ruthless authoritarian control to rigorously control the virus. I can't imagine this wasn't allowed unless there was negligible risk.

Wuhan hosts massive water park party as Covid concerns recede

Thousands of Wuhan revelers cram into a water park for outdoor rave more than eight months after Covid-19 was detected at the former ground zero.

edition.cnn.com

It wouldn't be allowed if it wasn't considered low-risk, for sure. Wuhan is low-risk. They tested everyone in the city several months ago, just to be sure.

Life continues here in China. The universities are starting back up next week, and the freshmen have already arrived on campus.

Yeah I don't think this pool party was a good idea, personally

Why?

 

[frogwoman]

It wouldn't be allowed if it wasn't considered low-risk, for sure. Wuhan is low-risk. They tested everyone in the city several months ago, just to be sure.

Life continues here in China. The universities are starting back up next week, and the freshmen have already arrived on campus.



Why?

Because someone there could have it. Although if the rates are that low it might be OK.

 

[Yu_Gi_Oh]

Because someone there could have it. Although if the rates are that low it might be OK.

They tested all 11 million residents in May and haven't had a case since. The people of Wuhan have been through a lot and I hope they have a great time at the water park.

 

[phillm]

They tested all 11 million residents in May and haven't had a case since. The people of Wuhan have been through a lot and I hope they have a great time at the water park.

Oi Johnson you cunt this is what our world-beating track and trace looks like.

 

[Numbers]

Oi Johnson you cunt this is what our world-beating track and trace looks like.

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With shared pen.

 

[frogwoman]

They tested all 11 million residents in May and haven't had a case since. The people of Wuhan have been through a lot and I hope they have a great time at the water park.

I hope so too in that case

 

[frogwoman]

They tested all 11 million residents in May and haven't had a case since. The people of Wuhan have been through a lot and I hope they have a great time at the water park.

It must have been a very frightening time. And yeah Wuhan is probably one of the safer places to be at the moment tbh.

 

[Maltin]

With shared pen.

Come on, there are at least 2 pens!

 

[frogwoman]

Oh fuck, 127 deaths in Spain. Really hope this is a backlog of previously unreported cases rather than deaths starting to go up again

 

[Yossarian]

This looks like one big FU to the world and more pertinently the US from China who have the tools, track and tracing and ruthless authoritarian control to rigorously control the virus. I can't imagine this wasn't allowed unless there was negligible risk.

Wuhan hosts massive water park party as Covid concerns recede

Thousands of Wuhan revelers cram into a water park for outdoor rave more than eight months after Covid-19 was detected at the former ground zero.

edition.cnn.com

Wuhan is what happens when a govt act decisively to crush COVID19: whole city lockdown, hospital build in 7 days, 11 million tested, life returns to normal aft 3 month

Shame the government didn't act decisively to crush COVID-19 a little sooner instead of arresting doctors who tried to raise the alarm and failing to provide the WHO with timely and accurate information, then the whole world would be able to go to waterparks.

 

[Thora]

From 4 months ago Manager at major UK food supplier says staff who stay at home may be sacked
fast forward to today Dessert factory coronavirus cases rise to 72
bastards.

There's a Bakkavor factory near me (nowhere near Nottingham) that is also having an outbreak at the moment.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Oh fuck, 127 deaths in Spain. Really hope this is a backlog of previously unreported cases rather than deaths starting to go up again

Hopefully so.

Their reporting of deaths seem to a bit all over the place ATM, 26 on the 4th Aug. and 74 on 10th Aug., with only 3 in between those dates.

 

[frogwoman]

50% of the workforce in the Philippines is out of work! Fuck

 

[elbows]

Regarding Spains data, I stopped looking at their numbers when they fucked around with the death figures many months ago. But I had a little look today so I could understand the current state of their data.

My recommendation is to use the deaths by date of death graph thats in the daily report.

eg scroll down a few pages in this one for today: https://www.mscbs.gob.es/profesiona...ina/documentos/Actualizacion_188_COVID-19.pdf
Which can be found in future by clicking the link on this page Ministerio de Sanidad, Consumo y Bienestar Social - Profesionales - Situación actual Coronavirus that is labelled like Actualización nº188: enfermedad por SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) 19.08.2020

 

[Sasaferrato]

This has probably been posted before.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 123,838,954 Cases and 2,727,153 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[return of caleb]

Another depressing Victoria, Australia update: remember that new measure somebody posted about in this thread, captioned 'they don't mess about Down Under' - $20,000 fines for those failing to self-isolate? The statistics that were used to justify that new measure being introduced were skewed: the Victorian premier claimed that over a third of people who were meant to be self-isolating were not doing so, however two weeks later it's been clarified that the vast majority of these cases were either (a) the result of an error with an address, or (b) seeking medical care or exercising, as they were allowed to do at that time under the Chief Health Officer's directive (subsequently changed). Once actually investigated, the percentage of those actually breaking the law was closer 0.8%.

Now here's why it matters:

How COVID-19 stigma is turning Victorians away from testing

Some Victorians are sitting on symptoms for days while others are steering clear of testing altogether.

www.theage.com.au

 

[2hats]

A sizeable COVID-19 episode on a fishing boat appears to have not infected crew members who already had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2. This may be the first direct, clear evidence that such antibodies protect people against being reinfected.

'Neutralizing antibodies correlate with protection from SARS-CoV-2 in humans during a fishery vessel outbreak with high attack rate', Addetia, Crawford, Dingens, et al.

Abstract: The development of vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 would be greatly facilitated by the identification of immunological correlates of protection in humans. However, to date, studies on protective immunity have only been performed in animal models and correlates of protection have not been established in humans. Here, we describe an outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 on a fishing vessel associated with a high attack rate. Predeparture serological and viral RT-PCR testing along with repeat testing after return to shore was available for 120 of the 122 persons on board over a median follow-up of 32.5 days (range 18.8 to 50.5 days). A total of 104 individuals had an RT-PCR positive viral test with Ct <35 or seroconverted during the follow-up period, yielding an attack rate on board of 85.2% (104/122 individuals). Metagenomic sequencing of 39 viral genomes suggested the outbreak originated largely from a single viral clade. Only three crewmembers tested seropositive prior to the boat's departure in initial serological screening and also had neutralizing and spike-reactive antibodies in follow-up assays. None of these crewmembers with neutralizing antibody titers showed evidence of bona fide viral infection or experienced any symptoms during the viral outbreak. Therefore, the presence of neutralizing antibodies from prior infection was significantly associated with protection against re-infection (Fisher's exact test, p=0.002).

 

[retribution]

Another depressing Victoria, Australia update: remember that new measure somebody posted about in this thread, captioned 'they don't mess about Down Under' - $20,000 fines for those failing to self-isolate? The statistics that were used to justify that new measure being introduced were skewed: the Victorian premier claimed that over a third of people who were meant to be self-isolating were not doing so, however two weeks later it's been clarified that the vast majority of these cases were either (a) the result of an error with an address, or (b) seeking medical care or exercising, as they were allowed to do at that time under the Chief Health Officer's directive (subsequently changed). Once actually investigated, the percentage of those actually breaking the law was closer 0.8%.

Now here's why it matters:

How COVID-19 stigma is turning Victorians away from testing

Some Victorians are sitting on symptoms for days while others are steering clear of testing altogether.

www.theage.com.au

I don't get this concern about a decline in testing. Surely if everyone is locked up, then we're much less likely to catch anything that resembles COVID symptoms, and therefore less likely to go and get tested?

 

[sherriff rosco]

Another depressing Victoria, Australia update: remember that new measure somebody posted about in this thread, captioned 'they don't mess about Down Under' - $20,000 fines for those failing to self-isolate? The statistics that were used to justify that new measure being introduced were skewed: the Victorian premier claimed that over a third of people who were meant to be self-isolating were not doing so, however two weeks later it's been clarified that the vast majority of these cases were either (a) the result of an error with an address, or (b) seeking medical care or exercising, as they were allowed to do at that time under the Chief Health Officer's directive (subsequently changed). Once actually investigated, the percentage of those actually breaking the law was closer 0.8%.

Now here's why it matters:

How COVID-19 stigma is turning Victorians away from testing

Some Victorians are sitting on symptoms for days while others are steering clear of testing altogether.

www.theage.com.au

It's not depressing it's just that the initial door knocking of active cases was done by ADF and health workers, with no capacity to follow up. Seems the Police figures reflect reality a bit bettter as they have persued very few cases out of the 3000 that were checked.... 42.

Despite claims hundreds of Victorians are failing to isolate, police say only 42 have been fined

What was more depressing to me living here in Melb was that the run up to Stage 4 restrictions... only about 10% of people were wearing masks out on the street and there was a general " we've been here before, it's easy attitude ! ". But as soon as the threat of a fine was introduced almost everyone is wearing one and being righteous about it !

Still got 3 1/2 weeks of stage 4 to go..... proper stir crazy in our household !

.p.