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already fucking have been for yonks
Private and world class with a near total coverage rate of its population under insurance.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Portugals state of emergency :
Three categories of restriction .
1. Mandatory containment which is
Compulsory confinement, in a health establishment or in their home relates to:
- Patients with COVID-19 and those infected with SARS-Cov2.
- Citizens for whom the health authority or other health professionals have determined under active surveillance.
2. Special duty of protection
Those over 70 years old.
- Immunosuppressed people and people with a chronic disease who, according to the guidelines of the health authority, should be considered at risk, namely hypertensive, diabetic, cardiovascular patients, patients with chronic respiratory disease and cancer patients (may, however, except in case of medical discharge, circulate for the exercise of professional activity).
Those who are subject to a special duty of protection may only travel in public spaces and roads, or in spaces and private roads equivalent to public roads, for:
- Acquisition of goods and services.
- Travel for health reasons.
- Travel to post offices and post offices, bank branches and agencies of insurance brokers or insurance companies.
- Short trips for physical activity, although collective physical activity is prohibited
- Short trips to walk dogs
(These restrictions do not apply to health professionals and civil protection agents, to political office holders, magistrates and leaders of the social partners).
3. General duty of home confinement ( ie the rest of the population)
Citizens who are not subject to “mandatory confinement” or “special duty of protection” can only travel in public spaces and roads, or in spaces and private roads similar to public roads for:
- Acquisition of goods and services.
- Travel to perform professional or similar activities.
- If they are looking for a job or responding to a job offer.
- Displacement for health reasons, namely to obtain health care and to transport people to whom such care should be administered or to give blood.
- Displacement for emergency reception of victims of domestic violence or trafficking in human beings, as well as children and young people at risk, decreed by a judicial authority or Commission for the Protection of Children and Youth, in a residential or family home.
- Travel to assist vulnerable people, people with disabilities, children, parents, the elderly or dependents.
- Travel to accompany minors on short trips to "enjoy the outdoors" and to attend schools.
- Short trips for physical activity, although collective physical activity is prohibited.
- Travel to participate in social volunteering actions.
- Travel for "other imperative family reasons", namely the fulfillment of parental responsibility sharing.
- Visits, when authorized, or delivery of essential goods to people who are disabled or deprived of their freedom of movement.
- Participation in procedural acts with the judicial entities.
- Travel to post offices and post offices, bank branches and agencies of insurance brokers or insurance companies.
- Short trips to walk pets and to feed animals.
- Travel by veterinarians, animal owners for veterinary medical assistance, caregivers from colonies recognized by the municipalities, volunteers from zoophilic associations who need to travel to animal shelters and animal rescue teams.
- Travel by staff of diplomatic, consular missions and international organizations located in Portugal, as long as they are related to the performance of official functions.
- Travel required to exercise press freedom.
- Return to personal home.
Three categories of restriction .
1. Mandatory containment which is
Compulsory confinement, in a health establishment or in their home relates to:
- Patients with COVID-19 and those infected with SARS-Cov2.
- Citizens for whom the health authority or other health professionals have determined under active surveillance.
2. Special duty of protection
Those over 70 years old.
- Immunosuppressed people and people with a chronic disease who, according to the guidelines of the health authority, should be considered at risk, namely hypertensive, diabetic, cardiovascular patients, patients with chronic respiratory disease and cancer patients (may, however, except in case of medical discharge, circulate for the exercise of professional activity).
Those who are subject to a special duty of protection may only travel in public spaces and roads, or in spaces and private roads equivalent to public roads, for:
- Acquisition of goods and services.
- Travel for health reasons.
- Travel to post offices and post offices, bank branches and agencies of insurance brokers or insurance companies.
- Short trips for physical activity, although collective physical activity is prohibited
- Short trips to walk dogs
(These restrictions do not apply to health professionals and civil protection agents, to political office holders, magistrates and leaders of the social partners).
3. General duty of home confinement ( ie the rest of the population)
Citizens who are not subject to “mandatory confinement” or “special duty of protection” can only travel in public spaces and roads, or in spaces and private roads similar to public roads for:
- Acquisition of goods and services.
- Travel to perform professional or similar activities.
- If they are looking for a job or responding to a job offer.
- Displacement for health reasons, namely to obtain health care and to transport people to whom such care should be administered or to give blood.
- Displacement for emergency reception of victims of domestic violence or trafficking in human beings, as well as children and young people at risk, decreed by a judicial authority or Commission for the Protection of Children and Youth, in a residential or family home.
- Travel to assist vulnerable people, people with disabilities, children, parents, the elderly or dependents.
- Travel to accompany minors on short trips to "enjoy the outdoors" and to attend schools.
- Short trips for physical activity, although collective physical activity is prohibited.
- Travel to participate in social volunteering actions.
- Travel for "other imperative family reasons", namely the fulfillment of parental responsibility sharing.
- Visits, when authorized, or delivery of essential goods to people who are disabled or deprived of their freedom of movement.
- Participation in procedural acts with the judicial entities.
- Travel to post offices and post offices, bank branches and agencies of insurance brokers or insurance companies.
- Short trips to walk pets and to feed animals.
- Travel by veterinarians, animal owners for veterinary medical assistance, caregivers from colonies recognized by the municipalities, volunteers from zoophilic associations who need to travel to animal shelters and animal rescue teams.
- Travel by staff of diplomatic, consular missions and international organizations located in Portugal, as long as they are related to the performance of official functions.
- Travel required to exercise press freedom.
- Return to personal home.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Blimey The39thStep plenty of wiggle room in Portugal's statement 
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Funnily enough I had a conversation with a bloke around the Portuguese CP about the expected State of Emergemcy and he used the exact same phrase. Apparantly its because the constitution was drafted to prevent the reintroduction of fascism and the suspension of democarcy and the conditions of the State of Emergency have to be worded around rights within that.Blimey The39thStep plenty of wiggle room in Portugal's statement
ruffneck23
front left
yeah i worked around the corner ( before being sent to wfh last week) and on even on thursday the whole area was very quiet.eeeerm . Just an observation . Not that I am complaining.... Gatwick Airport is silent !!!
driving on the m25 was like driving on xmas day , this was before everything got shut down
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
Greece restricts travel to islands to permanent residents only.
Coronavirus: Only permanent residents can travel to Greek islands - Keep Talking Greece
The Greek government decided to ban the move of mainland Greeks to the islands as they thought theywww.keeptalkinggreece.com
My mother, aunt and cousins live on various Greek islands.
The problem with this policy is that many Greeks from the mainland cities consider themselves “residents” of the islands (and small rural communities) because they have ancestral properties there. The Greeks will talk about themselves as being from, coming from, places that they only really visit in the hot summer months of exodus from the cities. The other problem of course is that Greeks generally consider themselves independent of the law whenever it suits them. And as a seafaring people they have private launches to get to and fro across the water.
As I understand it, the islands are being really sensible and already taking precautions internally but that’s all going to fall apart as the city dwellers get going.
Healthcare on the islands is really basic. The islanders know this and that’s why they've been so diligent about social, isolation already.
Added to this is the refugee crisis. I’m almost physically afraid of what’s going to happen when this virus gets into the refugee population and then Syria, Yemen, Palestine....
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Yes, the refugee camps are a disaster waiting to happen. The ones on the islands are now under lockdown. I think Greece, and Europe, as well as the refugees, are about to pay the price for setting up EU concentration camps.
www.theguardian.com
Fears of catastrophe as Greece puts migrant camps into lockdown
Doctors say coronavirus outbreak could be disastrous amid ‘horrific’ conditions
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
This is the story about chloroquine.
Trump has jumped the gun on this. He claimed the FDA has approved it for use on C-19. That's not true and has led to doctors elsewhere (eg Nigeria) using it with resulting overdoses.
It’s one of the agents being investigated. That's not the same thing at all.
Having said that, a colleague of mine has had the virus (moderate Sx treated at home) and reports that she both craved tonic water and felt better for drinking it. Tonic water contains quinine, an antimalarial compound that chloroquinine is based on. NB In no way is this any kind of claim that tonic water can treat C19!
The situation for refugees on Samos.
samoschronicles.wordpress.com
Samos Refugees: We see a Darkness
In Greece, as elsewhere, the coronavirus epidemic now dominates daily life. Rarely a day passes without some new announcement. Most have a major impact as schools and universities, coffee bars, res…
samoschronicles.wordpress.com
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SheilaNaGig
Break requested
The situation for refugees on Samos.
Samos Refugees: We see a Darkness
In Greece, as elsewhere, the coronavirus epidemic now dominates daily life. Rarely a day passes without some new announcement. Most have a major impact as schools and universities, coffee bars, res…
Samos is my own family’s home island. We came from Smyrna as refugees and landed on Samos. I also have family on Lesbos. Later we went to Athens and Kalamata, Epidavros...
I also have Syrian blood.
Samos is the place where my genetic ancestry meets and mingles. I can’t bear to look at what what’s happening there right now.
xes
F.O.A.D
Thanks for clearing that up, and I think you did just say that tonic water is the cure. Sorry. /spreads it on social media...
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
T & P
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eeeerm . Just an observation . Not that I am complaining
I've just checked Flight Radar 24 and while not as busy as normal, at first there appeared to be a good number of flights on UK airspace. But then I started to click on the individual planes and many of them are just flying overhead, not taking off or landing.
Looking at LGW's live flight info, there have been some movements during the day but it looks like about 75% of all scheduled flights in or out have been cancelled.
I’m in the UK, small town, not much to note really. About half the shops shut, some of the cafes having a go at offering a takeaway service but I’m not sure they’ll find the demand to keep going. I’m following the news from Greece because I was over there when the first cases appeared and flew back just as the first moves towards a lockdown started. The immediate effect of closing schools and universities seemed to be that cafes and bars in Athens were doing weekend levels of business mid-week. I can see why the government felt the need to shut them down a couple of days later. Much as I dislike the current government their response does look quite competent, at least from a distance. Maybe it would look different if I was still in Athens.
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
I know some people live in lovely big apartments, but a really huge number of Greeks live in small overcrowded apartments and essentially live outdoors when it gets hot (which will be soon). I know one family with 9 kids and three bedrooms. They have small rooms and a pretty big balcony, which is fairly standard in urban apartments. But imagine being locked down with nine kids.
On the other hand, some (more wealthy but not actually rich) families have second and even third properties that have been closed up and mothballed since the financial breakdown. They’ve not been able to sell the properties and wherever possible have been sitting on them empty. So I guess some of those will be available for extended family?
(For those who don’t know, Greeks have a particular yearning to hand on property to their offspring and wherever possible they buy up and then rent out so they can gift property to their kids when they get married. It’s not just very rich people who do this.)
Yes, I can see it getting a bit grim as it gets hotter. It’s understandable they would want to head back to their villages. The government may be able to control this, for the most part, on the islands but I’m not sure how they can stop people going back to the mainland villages.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
I saw a woman in Tesco the other day with several boxes of tonic water piled in her trolley - wonder if she had jumped to the same conclusion.
This article is both informative and terrifying:
The Story of a Coronavirus Infection
How the novel coronavirus could take over your body before you ever felt it.
nymag.com
miss direct
misfungled
Well breaking news in Turkey is that over 65s are banned from leaving the house. This needed to happen, and in fact, should be extended. It was sunny today and loads and loads of people went out as usual. I'm dreading the news in the coming weeks.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
She probably just liked gin.
Sunak's Employers' Subsidy
It may be unprecedented in the annals of British economic history, but Rishi Sunak's third budget was just not good enough. For millions ...
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This is a reasonable article on the economic effects for Greece. There does seem to be an idea floating around that it might all be under control in time for summer and the main tourist season. I wonder if this was a factor in the government acting quickly, in the hope that the worst of the economic disaster could be averted by a fast response. I can’t really see how this can happen though. Even if Greece can bring its own epidemic under control how could it allow mass tourism to restart while the epidemic is still going on in northern Europe? I could imagine it having to wait until there’s a vaccination program with travellers having to show a vaccination certificate to cross borders.
balkaninsight.com
Greece Braces for New, Coronavirus-Driven Recession
Greece’s attempts to recover from its long economic crisis are now being threatened by the coronavirus pandemic, which is expected to deliver a heavy blow to the country’s tourism revenues.
balkaninsight.com
clicker
nanook rubs it....
A friend flew back into Athens yesterday (or the day before) and will be travelling onto her home island. Once there she'll be self quarantined for 14 days. There have been a lot of people returning in the last week and if seen out and about are being reported to police. The hospital is barely running , without cv.
She (and all she saw) was swabbed and had her temp taken at Athens airport and was told results would be ready in 48 hours. Well done to Athens if they have managed to get that in place. I'm not sure if they are testing those who are travelling within Greece and onto the islands by ferry yet.
She (and all she saw) was swabbed and had her temp taken at Athens airport and was told results would be ready in 48 hours. Well done to Athens if they have managed to get that in place. I'm not sure if they are testing those who are travelling within Greece and onto the islands by ferry yet.
