Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I mean, I guess you can still walk across the border? They haven't specifically said it's totally closed. Personally, I wouldn't come into China right now anyway.
The UK Government agrees with you
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elbows
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Three more people in Germany infected with coronavirus: state ministry
Three more people in southern Germany have contracted the coronavirus and they are employees at the same company where a man became the first person in Germany to become infected with the virus, the Bavarian health ministry said on Tuesday.
elbows
Well-Known Member
The Deceptively Simple Number Sparking Coronavirus Fears
Here’s what the oft-cited R0 number tells us about the new outbreak—and what it doesn’t.
elbows
Well-Known Member
It's unlikely I'm going to keep posting the same quantity of links, tweets etc as I have in the last few days. I'm certainly not going to obsessively post the latest numbers from China every night. Anyway a fair chunk of my internet sources are shown by what I've already posted, if anyone was having trouble finding such things, there is no need for me to parrot all this stuff as this event continues.
I'll probably try to focus more on whatever happens (or is learnt) next that I think is actually significant rather than stuff that is 'more of the same'.
I'll probably try to focus more on whatever happens (or is learnt) next that I think is actually significant rather than stuff that is 'more of the same'.
Graymalkin
Ironclad Activist
Is it meant as a dust mask? If so you can wear it for as long as its comfortable to breath. Eventually the filter will get clogged with dust and particulates. But until then, as long as the seals are intact it should be fine.
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
It's a PM 2.5 filtering mask. For pollution. It's not comfortable at all, but I'm happy to wear it.
maomao
普費斯
My father in law believes strongly that the virus was planted in Wuhan by the Americans but that everything will be okay in a week or two because the government have said it will be. It seems to some extent that the government have turned the New Year break into an advantage because a lot of people have at least a couple of weeks break at this time of year anyway, schools and universities are usually off for a month, so getting everyone to stay at home isn't as hard as it might be at other times of year.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Appreciate all the effort, fwiw
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
BA is cancelling all flights to mainland China with immediate effect. A few hours ago the Beijing and Shanghai to London flights took off, both carrying the crews which flew the aircraft in yesterday. Hong Kong flights are still operating as normal.
Yossarian
⏭️
Apparently some online rumors claim that the virus was created by the Americans - but people in northern China should mostly be safe because most of the overseas Chinese people the US government used to develop the virus are from southern China.
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
Australian laboratory claims to have been able to grow the virus.
nypost.com
This, they claim to be a breakthrough as it means identification will be easier and quicker.
Australian scientists first to grow coronavirus in a lab outside China
Scientists in Australia have replicated the deadly new coronavirus in a laboratory — in what they say is a “significant breakthrough” that may help diagnose and treat the disease. The l…
nypost.com
This, they claim to be a breakthrough as it means identification will be easier and quicker.
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
Germany confirms three more cases of coronavirus – DW – 01/28/2020
The disease, which has killed more than 100 people in China, has now infected four people in Bavaria. All four instances are thought to be connected to the recent visit of a Chinese worker to the area.
www.google.com
4 cases in Germany. 3 linked to worker who travelled from China and had visited their parents from Wuhan.
ruffneck23
front left
which makes us at work think it's more serious than the media are letting on...
not-bono-ever
meh
Just got a screenshot of instructions from a large Chinese U.K. based outfit from someone - recent visitors to China have to stay away from work for 14 days, if a family member has travelled, then 7 days
More likely just that the foreign office has advised against all but essential travel. This being all our travel insurance is suddenly invalid for trips to mainland China. Quite simply there isn't anybody to fly out there, or the number to justify to cost of the flights. Its exactly what I would expect a British airline to do under the circumstances.
ETA: Also the duty of care thing to their employees.
not-bono-ever
meh
Mostly just risk management at this stage - having hardware and crews possibly locked down overseas is a massive cost to BA
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
It's cutting options for those of us still here though.
not-bono-ever
meh
The Knock on from this will impact the whole regions transport if the SARS experience is anything to go by. Returns to Singapore were down to 250 quid at one point
2hats
Dust.
All masks will reduce in efficiency over time with usage.It's a PM 2.5 filtering mask. For pollution. It's not comfortable at all, but I'm happy to wear it.
A mask only rated for PM2.5 isn't going to effectively filter out this virus. PM2.5 particles, where it is most efficient, are (surprise) 2500 nanometres in size. This coronavirus is going to have dimensions of something like 100-150 nanometres. The mask you describe will probably filter some of the virions but with much reduced efficacy (varying with mask manufacturer). Much better if it is rated N99 or FFP3; then it will provide some degree of protection if fitted properly (tight seal around the mouth and nose with no leakage) - the vast majority of people will have masks that either don't fit properly, or they do not know how to fit them properly, or they readjust them for comfort whilst wearing them, leading to poor fitting.
Any mask (even a clogged one) will however reduce (see previous other discussion) your ability to touch your mouth and nose, so reducing the likelihood of virion ingress through those entry points (which just leaves your eyes, which clearly nothing other than a full face respirator helps protect).
In summary: wash hands regularly, thoroughly, don't touch them to the soft wet entry points (wear a mask if this helps achieve that), know where your food came from/who prepared it, and try to avoid other people.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Coronavirus: Australia plans island quarantine as foreigners leave Wuhan
Hundreds of foreigners fly out of Wuhan, as Australia announces a Christmas Island quarantine plan.
www.bbc.co.uk
I bet the residents are well chuffed with that.
not-bono-ever
meh
It’s already a detention camp
