Coronavirus: music festivals, big gigs, sports events and big gatherings - going ahead and cancelled

[editor]

Better for the environment

For the band gigs, we almost always travel by public transport, and I walk to all my DJ gigs, all of which have been cancelled, probably till next year. I currently have zero income and zero prospect of any income any time soon.


Great to see it's all a joke to you.

 

[Supine]

Promoters need to find alternate venues.

Roof top car parks
Tunnels
Marques in fields
Forrests
Disused warehouses

Basically all the places that free parties like but done legal as popup venues.

 

[Big Bertha]

Promoters need to find alternate venues.

Roof top car parks
Tunnels
Marques in fields
Forrests
Disused warehouses

Basically all the places that free parties like but done legal as popup venues.

I think promoters & DJs probably need to find alternative employment for the duration.
Can’t see anything positive for a while tbh

 

[Supine]

I think promoters & DJs probably need to find alternative employment for the duration.
Can’t see anything positive for a while tbh

Luckily plenty of promoters do it for the love of the scene and don’t expect to earn a living from it. In the styles of music I like anyway.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Luckily plenty of promoters do it for the love of the scene and don’t expect to earn a living from it. In the styles of music I like anyway.

Go tell my mates that they can pay their mortgages and buy food for their children “for the love of it”.

Fucks sake.

 

[Badgers]

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

For the band gigs, we almost always travel by public transport, and I walk to all my DJ gigs, all of which have been cancelled, probably till next year. I currently have zero income and zero prospect of any income any time soon.


Great to see it's all a joke to you

It’s not a joke. People are facing ruin. You get this, you understand it. Which is why I can’t get why you’re so against something - that is blatantly a temporary stopgap thing - that might keep various businesses and crew going, so they can be there ready to go when the world gets back to normal.

Who cares if it’s shit? Who cares if it isn’t for everyone? Who cares if it’s for cars? None of that matters right now. People are trying to survive.

 

[Supine]

Go tell my mates that they can pay their mortgages and buy food for their children “for the love of it”.

Fucks sake.

Sorry but I didn’t know this was just a thread about you and your mates. I feel terrible for lots and lots of people who have lost income, your mates included. I think I can still comment on the thread title without only addressing that aspect of the current situation though.

 

[Big Bertha]

Luckily plenty of promoters do it for the love of the scene and don’t expect to earn a living from it. In the styles of music I like anyway.

Yeah but I don’t see any opportunities to do anything for the love of it either.

essentially there is no scene at the moment

 

[mx wcfc]

I hadn't even heard of this festival, but this just popped up on my social media, courtesy of Vive Le Rock.


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[Bahnhof Strasse]

Go tell my mates that they can pay their mortgages and buy food for their children “for the love of it”.

Fucks sake.

Sorry dude, your industry is fucked by this. Mine ain't much better. Soft-play people are also well bollocksed. But your one is really badly hit. And it's a double cunt as it is one we nearly all love, indeed a reason for being for many. I mentioned the other day that of course furlough can't carry on indefinitely but where government mandates businesses can't operate then furlough should continue. I have written to Jeremy Hunt with that suggestion, can't hurt for others to write to their MP's with similar...

 

[editor]

It’s not a joke. People are facing ruin. You get this, you understand it. Which is why I can’t get why you’re so against something - that is blatantly a temporary stopgap thing - that might keep various businesses and crew going, so they can be there ready to go when the world gets back to normal.

Who cares if it’s shit? Who cares if it isn’t for everyone? Who cares if it’s for cars? None of that matters right now. People are trying to survive.

I'm not even sure why you think these fucking awful polluting drive-in gigs are any kind of massive money spinner for musicians and PA companies anyway. Maybe the big boys would get to fill their pockets, but it's a non starter for smaller bands.

I'd wager that just about everyone involved was being asked to do it on the cheap anyway, just like what's happening around my town.

 

[Marty1]

Yeah but I don’t see any opportunities to do anything for the love of it either.

essentially there is no scene at the moment

Not strictly true.

General Coronavirus (COVID-19) chat

This is interesting - the ground is vibrating less due to lockdown. I bet the moles and earthworms will be happier. :) Interesting - and I'd not noticed just how lovely and quiet it is now :cool: There's not often traffic noise where I am but it's totally fucking silent. Having said that a...

www.urban75.net

 

[editor]

Sorry dude, your industry is fucked by this. Mine ain't much better. Soft-play people are also well bollocksed. But your one is really badly hit. And it's a double cunt as it is one we nearly all love, indeed a reason for being for many. I mentioned the other day that of course furlough can't carry on indefinitely but where government mandates businesses can't operate then furlough should continue. I have written to Jeremy Hunt with that suggestion, can't hurt for others to write to their MP's with similar...

Anyone in the entertainment industry on furlough is one of the lucky ones. I can tell you exactly how much I've earned since the middle of March: £620 - that was the government one-off payment. I've earned nothing since and at the moment have zero prospect of any income from any of my jobs for many months.

Luckily, I'm used to living cheap and have savings which I'm working my way through, and there's stuff I should have flogged off ages ago, so I'm doing way better than many of my friends. It's a hugely shit time for musicians and anyone involved in the music/hospitality industry.

 

[ska invita]

" From 1 August, there will be a slew of new freedoms, including re-opening indoor performances. " <Johnson

 

[William of Walworth]

" From 1 August, there will be a slew of new freedoms, including re-opening indoor performances. " <Johnson

Meaningless without any detail, and I'm assuming Johnson offered none.

 

[ska invita]

Meaningless without any detail, and I'm assuming Johnson offered none.

yes, it was a teaser. however if indoor performances are allowed Id expect outdoor ones to be too.

 

[souljacker]

In all seriousness beesonthewhatnow , some of the skills techies in your business have are transferable to the networking or office av industries which still seem to be plugging on despite the pandemic. If I were in your position, I'd be looking at jobs elsewhere to keep me going until things change. Is that an option?

 

[ska invita]

In all seriousness beesonthewhatnow , some of the skills techies in your business have are transferable to the networking or office av industries which still seem to be plugging on despite the pandemic. If I were in your position, I'd be looking at jobs elsewhere to keep me going until things change. Is that an option?

my friend who does AV/networking stuff for a uni has basically seen his workload go off the scale as everyone is trying to set up new systems
not sure how transferal sound engineering skills are though tbf, you have to know your particular tech very well

 

[killer b]

yes, it was a teaser. however if indoor performances are allowed Id expect outdoor ones to be too.

Outdoor ones are allowed already (from this weekend I think?)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

In all seriousness beesonthewhatnow , some of the skills techies in your business have are transferable to the networking or office av industries which still seem to be plugging on despite the pandemic. If I were in your position, I'd be looking at jobs elsewhere to keep me going until things change. Is that an option?

I’m in a full time role now (just over a year), currently furloughed and back next month. Almost every single colleague is freelance though and fucked...

Problem with the new range of virtual events etc is that they can essentially be operated by a single person. There’s a lot of techs scrabbling for very little work. All the office/install side is being taken care of by those who were already doing it.

 

[editor]

So my American tour - which must be starting to hang by a thread after so many cancellations - is now being rescheduled from May 2021 to Sept 2021. I hope I'm still alive to enjoy it!

 

[ska invita]

Meaningless without any detail, and I'm assuming Johnson offered none.

some detail

Theatres, music and performance venues can reopen with social distancing in August

The government is working on pilots for indoor socially distanced performances in England.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Allowing events is one thing, organisers getting them insured is going to be a whole new headache.

 

[editor]

some detail

Theatres, music and performance venues can reopen with social distancing in August

The government is working on pilots for indoor socially distanced performances in England.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not many venues will be able to afford bands/DJs/sound engineers with quarter sized crowds unless they (a) rack the admission price up through the roof or (b) expect everyone to earn a quarter of their usual rate (or less).

 

[ska invita]

Allowing events is one thing, organisers getting them insured is going to be a whole new headache.

Not many venues will be able to afford bands/DJs/sound engineers with quarter sized crowds unless they (a) rack the admission price up through the roof or (b) expect everyone to earn a quarter of their usual rate (or less).

i dont disagree

also:

Fans in stadiums: Boris Johnson says spectators could return in England in October

Spectators could be able to watch sport inside stadiums in England again from October, says Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

www.bbc.co.uk

i think this is all wishful thinking...just read barcelona is going back into a 2 week lockdown for example - nonetheless all the signals are that the Tories are going to "allow" things to open probably more than is wise to, partly to justify switching off financial support.

 

[Badgers]

Allowing events is one thing, organisers getting them insured is going to be a whole new headache.

There is no insurance against C-19. Some travel companies have got refund or reschedule policies but are funding that themselves, not insuring it. For me the insurer just charged me 30% for moving the policy to new dates. Insurance for venues will be much harder

Spoke to the boss at ExCel today. They are not opening for any events till October 1st, with staff coming off furlough a month before.

This means already (mostly) once or twice postponed events Aug-Sept will be rescheduled. Up till yesterday there were events selling stands and tickets for August like Grand Designs Live who were claiming 500 companies plus 90-100k visitors would be attending. Plus the contractors, venue staff, security and others. Fucking farcical

Also this Nightingale £3bn talk is government bollocks as usual what they have got at ExCel is 10,000sqm of empty space 'on hold' for the government in readiness for a second wave over winter. This is less than 10% of the event space available at the venue.

Also worth noting that ADNEC (the UAE basically) who own ExCel have gifted this to the UK as they did with the space needed to build the Hancock photo opportunity original hospital.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

There is no insurance against C-19. Some travel companies have got refund or reschedule policies but are funding that themselves, not insuring it. For me the insurer just charged me 30% for moving the policy to new dates. Insurance for venues will be much harder

Spoke to the boss at ExCel today. They are not opening for any events till October 1st, with staff coming off furlough a month before.

This means already (mostly) once or twice postponed events Aug-Sept will be rescheduled. Up till yesterday there were events selling stands and tickets for August like Grand Designs Live who were claiming 500 companies plus 90-100k visitors would be attending. Plus the contractors, venue staff, security and others. Fucking farcical

Also this Nightingale £3bn talk is government bollocks as usual what they have got at ExCel is 10,000sqm of empty space 'on hold' for the government in readiness for a second wave over winter. This is less than 10% of the event space available at the venue.

Also worth noting that ADNEC (the UAE basically) who own ExCel have gifted this to the UK as they did with the space needed to build the Hancock photo opportunity original hospital.

That's nice of the UAE.

And nice to know that should you be on a ventilator in the second wave you can nip in to the Ideal Home Exhibition on your afternoons off...

 

[Badgers]

And nice to know that should be on a ventilator in the second wave you can nip in to the Ideal Home Exhibition in your afternoons off...

Every cloud eh?

 

[Cloo]

Big Moon gig for 31st October just been postponed to 10 March 2021, but I can't see that happening either unless there is either a viable vaccine or else a sea-change in treatment by the end of this year.