existentialist
Tired and unemotional
FUCK!
Right, that's it - doors locked, hide the car up the road, and keep all the lights off once I'm back...
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Right, that's it - doors locked, hide the car up the road, and keep all the lights off once I'm back...planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I don't know, I doubt anyone knows. Certainly not any event I've heard about, events have been pretty much shut down for ages.
It's a small population but with a high amount of cases. The small population can't cover it though. There are similar areas in the county population-wise which do not have that amount of cases.
I blame Dylan Thomas.
Edit, they may sound facile but it does account for some movement. He's a tourist attraction. (Thomas, not existentialist).
bimble
floofy
Yep. That unevenness has got to be to do with specific local events though, right? Events not necessarily as in parties but as in maybe 1 person who has a lot of friends and poor hygeine or something? It can't be that people in that bit of wales just caught the virus more easily last week than they did anywhere else.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Not being a scientist, I haven't a sniff. But I know this. The virus works on interaction and people movement. Existentialist's area have shown a threefold increase last week compared to the rolling average over the previous month.
My area has gone the other way. We were really bad. Then we've got a threefold decrease. And I think that's because news of it swept through town, people became aware and changed their behaviour accordingly. Deserted streets etc, even before lockdown. People were scared and stayed at home. Because people were dying and suddenly we knew this for real.
I think it may be the new variant and it's increased transmission. Hit my town 2-3 weeks ago, now it's on existentialist's town. And maybe when they adjust like we did, numbers will fall.
But the numbers here are anything from 8-14 times worse (24 x in existentialist's town) than they were when we had local lockdowns in September.
souljacker
innit
I understood it to mean truckers can come and go subject to testing? Maybe I've got it wrong. We need some sort of group of people to explain it better. Some sort of government maybe. I don't know where we'd get one of those.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Those sorts of questions are somewhat related to a point about local data I've been meaning to make a gain recently. I'm going to try to be brief for once.
There is nothing wrong with looking at very local data, but people should not rely on that stuff alone when forming a personal sense of risk. There are several reasons for this, including:
Its usually an out of date picture by the time we see the data. Bad things happen when the government only react to historical pictures without extrapolating forwards in time and imagining how the picture has evolved since, they end up perpetually on the backfoot. Better to err on the side of imagining a worse picture than that shown by recent data.
Its not a pure picture of infections, it also says much about the testing system, access to testing, will to engage with the test system. For example where I live the test centre was temporary, it travelled around to other places and so local testing was only available on certain weeks. A more permanent solution is finally in place I believe, but only very recently did this happen. And certain sorts of outbreaks are more likely to be noticed and to lead to more cases that form part of that cluster being detected. Current test systems should be able to see well beyond the tip of the iceberg, but some big chunk of the iceberg is still not on this radar.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
elbows
Well-Known Member
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Where's that then?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Yes you are. SE Wales has been hammered for a while now.
Just to be clear, my 'highest I've seen' referred to me looking at mid and west Wales.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Do you know where Dylan Thomas wrote? There.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Llareggub?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Milkwood road SE24?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Where he wrote that, yes.
Nice boathouse there is there?
Under that.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Under Milk Wood Road... did Herne Hill inspire Dylan Thomas? - Southwark NewsNice boathouse there is there?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I have a horrible feeling that the usual Xmas day news fodder of (tragic) house fires will be eclipsed this year by tales of patients dying in ambulances as they wait outside swamped 'red' hospitals and morgues over-filling. 
Dark, I know...but i fear this will be the reality of living on Johnson's plague island.
Dark, I know...but i fear this will be the reality of living on Johnson's plague island.
I live in London and have just driven past two big superstores. Both have large car parks and both car parks were basically full. They even had staff out to help with the parking. Neither store had any queue outside (remember when that was a thing?) so I can only guess the virus is doing a roaring trade.
editor
hiraethified
I don't think it would have been as simple as that. Many people have far from ideal home situations, and many people are only surviving by visiting food banks. And then there's the mental health aspect which really can't be understated. And, of course, if there were no essential workers getting out, you'd be left with no power, utilities, services or food.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I posted these two screengrabs last week, to illustrate the spread in the SE corner, which is frankly staggering - the the sample dates were [top] 8th & 11th Dec.
Now compare those with the latest map, sample date 17/12/20 - no green areas left, and only three borough/district council areas in West Sussex that are 'light blue', the spread of 'purple' areas, and the new 'dark purple' being introduced, freaks me right out.
Now compare those with the latest map, sample date 17/12/20 - no green areas left, and only three borough/district council areas in West Sussex that are 'light blue', the spread of 'purple' areas, and the new 'dark purple' being introduced, freaks me right out.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Because of the wider shitshow round the government's management of the pandemic, we are close to the point where these things will cease to be a matter of choice. If things get as bad as it looks, we'll simply have to close all the places where transmission is likely.
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