Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[LDC]

My mum has cancer so I’m not sure if I can delay gratification for another Christmas. I don’t want to be the person who gives her covid tho given how immune compromised she is from chemo

I'm very strict with the rules, and generally have very little (no) sympathy for people breaking them day to day. For exactly the reason that it's then OK for some people that really need to (single parents/carers with kids in flats, people really struggling living on their own, people with ill or old relatives or friends, etc. etc.) to break them, and it also makes it safer for them when they do.

 

[Elpenor]

Yeah I get that. I don’t want to break any rules, and don’t intend to.

Am a contractor so don’t get any sick pay.

 

[elbows]

Sage modelling group consensus from November 4th for a meeting the next day, so just before the new measures took effect. Covers England only. As the next week or so brings in the data for the crucial period I shall be likely to refer to these for comparison.

Document also includes regional graphs but I'll just put the national ones here for now.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/935132/spi-m-o-consensus-statement-covid-19-sage-66-051120-s0864.pdf

 

[Numbers]

So we're having this again. People going out to the shops and saying OOMG I can't believe how busy it is, look at all these people in the shops.


I mean no where else is open and it's been really mild. Why are you going out.

I had to go to the chemist and I fully adhere to safety protocol.

It’s just the way people are behaving around here which is worrying, the kids are the worst but they’re not alone.

 

[LDC]

Yeah I get that. I don’t want to break any rules, and don’t intend to.

Am a contractor so don’t get any sick pay.

Ah, sorry if I wasn't clear, I wasn't having a go, I was more saying that I think the situation you're in (sick relative) is a case for breaking the rules.

 

[Steel Icarus]

This bullshit tepid "lockdown" isn't working. I don't care if there's no evidence in the figures yet. I see people's behaviour daily. Without another March type lockdown for a couple of months thousands of people are going to die needlessly. There's no system any any supermarket I've been in, nobody observes distancing and staff don't challenge anyone. Kids in college mainly wear masks but then go sit next to other students all day. Many students treat mask wearing as something they must avoid being caught for, not something to do for everyone's benefit. Many staff don't gaf about challenging bad behaviour or modelling good behaviour around masks or sanitising. Every bus has maskless people upstairs. Kids from different families are still all playing or hanging out together. People are still going round their mum's and mates. Grimsby now has three Covid wards. We've rocketed into fourth place nationwide after being in the bottom three until September.

 

[5t3IIa]

We (Kirklees = Huddersfield & Dewsbury) are 9th, up from 13th. This is rates of infection, right? Is there a list? Like a Top 40 chart?

I went to a bloody takeaway last night and didn’t wear a mask and...I was tipsy and it didn’t cross my mind to What an absolute fucking state

 

[elbows]

 

[StoneRoad]

Excuse the sweary bits, please ...

But, Fuck Me, are these fooking wankers trying to kill off the elderly and other vulnerable groups ?

I'm referring to both the tory cockwombles with their "keep my profits up" motive and the even more stupid cockwombling covidiots wandering around unmasked in shops etc.

WE don't yet have a vaccine released into the general public (and even the limited amounts of puffizer one will not be ready for a few weeks yet) ...

Arrrggghhhh ! I've plenty of vulnerable / elderly friends and I'm not that young myself.
Looking at that information - which elbows has so ably presented - I'm starting to get worried, again.
I live on the edges of North-East, in a rural area, and still our local case rate is climbing.
This so-called circuit breaker is far too full of loopholes.

 

[sojourner]

Aren’t there quotas on numbers in supermarkets in the U.K.?

There were. Not so sure there are anymore.

That's odd, my local Tesco reintroduced a queueing system a week or two before this 'lockdown' started.

Why is it odd? You live in a completely different place to me.

So we're having this again. People going out to the shops and saying OOMG I can't believe how busy it is, look at all these people in the shops.


I mean no where else is open and it's been really mild. Why are you going out.

I loathe shopping of all kinds, but there is the issue of having to eat to survive, so food shopping is essential, knobber. I was pissed off after being in a densely populated shop and then having to stand in a fucking queue for half an hour waiting to get to the checkout, which is why I mentioned it.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Why is it odd? You live in a completely different place to me.

It's odd because I would expect nationwide supermarkets to have a national policy on safe-guarding, during a national crisis.

 

[Badgers]

It's odd because I would expect nationwide supermarkets to have a national policy on safe-guarding, during a national crisis.

I would prefer that councils set and strictly enforced said policy. Rather than hope the private sector step up.

 

[sojourner]

It's odd because I would expect nationwide supermarkets to have a national policy on safe-guarding, during a national crisis.

Yeh, I live in a fucking shit hole though. No one gives a fuck.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I would prefer that councils set and strictly enforced said policy. Rather than hope the private sector step up.

Not a hope in hell, they don't have the resources.

Anyway, this is Tesco's national policy, last updated 2/11/20.

In line with guidance, we have social distancing measures in stores, including:

• Floor markings in our car parks to help you to maintain safe distances when queuing.
• Where necessary, we will limit the flow of people coming into our stores to ensure they don’t get too congested.

Covid-19

www.tescoplc.com

So, it seems sojourner's local Tesco is not sticking to the rules set by head office, and needs reporting.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I would prefer that councils set and strictly enforced said policy. Rather than hope the private sector step up.

Councils can't even sort out potholes let alone manage genuine crisis

 

[sojourner]

Not a hope in hell, they don't have the resources.

Anyway, this is Tesco's national policy, last updated 2/11/20.



So, it seems sojourner's local Tesco is not sticking to the rules set by head office, and needs reporting.

Can't prove owt though can I? They'll just say they were. There's no one counting people in or out, but they have managed to stick some bright yellow tape on the floor by the checkouts.

 

[two sheds]

Councils can't even sort out potholes let alone manage genuine crisis

Do you have photographs with councillors pointing out such potholes as proof of your wild statement?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Can't prove owt though can I? They'll just say they were. There's no one counting people in or out, but they have managed to stick some bright yellow tape on the floor by the checkouts.

Next time take a few photos, stick in a complaint to Tesco, and copy it to your local rag, basically light the blue touch paper & enjoy the fireworks.

 

[planetgeli]

Do you have photographs with councillors pointing out such potholes as proof of your wild statement?

Blackburn, Lancashire earlier today.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Do you have photographs with councillors pointing out such potholes as proof of your wild statement?

 

[teqniq]

This is all a bit crazy:

 

[Badgers]

Lot's of the cunts wearing masks at an anti lockdown demo ffs

 

[FridgeMagnet]

AFAIK the only law regarding what you can do in shops is that customers need to wear a mask and that's not enforced and loads of people don't do it and nothing happens so, you know.

 

[Supine]

AFAIK the only law regarding what you can do in shops is that customers need to wear a mask and that's not enforced and loads of people don't do it and nothing happens so, you know.

I can't remember the last time I saw somebody in a shop without a mask here. At least a couple of weeks ago...

 

[kalidarkone]

Lot's of the cunts wearing masks at an anti lockdown demo ffs

Do you think that could be because its harder to be identified?
Also there seem to be a variety of reasons why people may object to lockdown, not everyone that objects is a covid denier afaik which may account for protesters wearing masks?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I can't remember the last time I saw somebody in a shop without a mask here. At least a couple of weeks ago...

About fifteen minutes ago for me. I popped into Sainsburys and four or five people didn't have them on, came in yakking away to each other. Daytime is usually better but there are usually a couple without them no matter where I go.

Also they didn't have any fucking cabbage I mean who runs out of cabbage, who is buying up all the cabbage, must be Bill Gates

I passed a popular chicken shop which has a "MASKS MANDATORY" sign in the window and there were six people queueing inside, none with masks.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Also there seem to be a variety of reasons why people may object to lockdown, not everyone that objects is a covid denier afaik which may account for protesters wearing masks?

This is true; as much as it's fun to take the piss out of the loons who go there and organise the demos, there are a lot of people with different reasons who attend. Otherwise they wouldn't get the numbers.

 

[panpete]

I just want dentist, don't like waiting until things become emergencies.

 

[kalidarkone]

I just want dentist, don't like waiting until things become emergencies.

Dentists and other health services are open as usual.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Dentists and other health services are open as usual.

Not exactly, my own dentist gave 3-months notice that they were ending their NHS contract, because covid precautions were limiting how many people they could see in a day, so I needed to find another dentist.

Having called over a dozen NHS dentists locally, not a single one is currently taking on new patients, not NHS nor even private, because of covid.