Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[elbows]

Although I do always worry when I post something like that that it reinforces the impression we have of a couple of very bad areas, which show up via positive tests and get a lot of press attention, at the expense of all sorts of other places that are having a bad time of it at the moment.

For example there are plenty of other places where generate graphs of a similar shape. I wont try to post them all so here is just one example.

 

[dshl]

No, as it says per 1000 people, not per 1000 covid +tive cases. For people over 75 it's been horrendously bad.

Just to confirm because I've got my stupid hat on: if it's not per 1000 covid, then it's saying that if you just take 1000 people randomly from England and Wales between the age of 60 and 69, whether they have had covid or not, two of them would have died from covid.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Although I do always worry when I post something like that that it reinforces the impression we have of a couple of very bad areas, which show up via positive tests and get a lot of press attention, at the expense of all sorts of other places that are having a bad time of it at the moment.

For example there are plenty of other places where generate graphs of a similar shape. I wont try to post them all so here is just one example.

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Can you please post a link to where you get the cases per trust from?

I am looking at the government dashboard, and that only seems to offer data down to regional level, not by trust.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Just to confirm because I've got my stupid hat on: if it's not per 1000 covid, then it's saying that if you just take 1000 people randomly from England and Wales between the age of 60 and 69, whether they have had covid or not, two of them would have died from covid.

Well, they would clearly have to have had covid to die from it, but yes it's per 1,000 people, so 2 out of 1,000 aged 60-69.

 

[elbows]

Can you please post a link to where you get the cases per trust from?

I am looking at the government dashboard, and that only seems to offer data down to regional level, not by trust.

I have to make my own graphs. I normally link to the page where I get the data but I didnt today. To be able to compare the first wave to the second, I have to join results together from two spreadsheets - the monthly one which currently goes up to November 5th for this particular data, and a weekly one which only contains data from August onwards but currently has 5 additional days data at the moment compared to the monthly one.

Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity

A number of data collections have been implemented to support incident management. The collections were activated at short notice and the content of the collections has evolved as the incident has developed. The data collected is classified as management information. It has been collected on a...

www.england.nhs.uk

Perhaps there is a website that presents this data nicely, I havent looked recently. I am available for requests, on the understanding there is always a chance I will make a mistake when attempting to combine & present the data. And I need people to be explicit with NHS trust names. And theres quite a lot of different data including various sorts I only post here rarely or never, like number of Covid-19 staff absences, per-trust mechanical ventilator bed patient numbers, discharges per day.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Cheers elbows, and fair play that you make your own graphs from playing around with all that data.

I think I'll stick to just asking my SiS for updates on our local trust*, seems a lot easier.

* 3 hospitals, covering around 250-300k population, and 'only' had 16 cases in, as of last Friday.

 

[frogwoman]

Boris Johnson self-isolating after MP tests positive for Covid-19 - BBC News

The prime minister says he was contacted by NHS Test and Trace but is not showing any symptoms.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Teaboy]

Boris Johnson self-isolating after MP tests positive for Covid-19 - BBC News

The prime minister says he was contacted by NHS Test and Trace but is not showing any symptoms.

www.bbc.co.uk

Seems kinda careless.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Boris Johnson self-isolating after MP tests positive for Covid-19 - BBC News

The prime minister says he was contacted by NHS Test and Trace but is not showing any symptoms.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well, that saves him from having to deal with difficult questions in the commons over cummings & brexit, how convenient.

 

[frogwoman]

Probably thought he was immune

 

[StoneRoad]

It's the MP that's tested +ve, and is isolating. (and he has a wife who was shielding ...)

BoJo's isolating 'cos serco nhs T&T told him he was in contact with a specific (+ve) person ...

hope he gets it again (poor virus)

 

[Raheem]

He'll be able to return to work once his test results come back. So, sometime in the New Year.

 

[Petcha]

This is utterly toe curling.

Can he not, at some stage, be serious about this situation we're in?

 

[prunus]

This is utterly toe curling.

Can he not, at some stage, be serious about this situation we're in?

If that smug cunt doesn’t get it again now after that then there is no god - oh, wait, hang on... shit

 

[Roadkill]

Sky News is just reporting that Hull is now the worst affected area.

Oh, it's on their website too...

COVID-19: Hull NHS boss calls for tighter lockdown and school closures

Chris Long says transmission rates are increasing because lots of people "are just going about their normal lives".

news.sky.com

Yep. The figures are terrifying, and yet... Fucking idiots.

 

[frogwoman]

Lol why can't he be serious rather than talking about boxing gloves etc? And stop with the stupid slogans ffs.

 

[Roadkill]

Lol why can't he be serious rather than talking about boxing gloves etc? And stop with the stupid slogans ffs.

Because Boris Johnson.

 

[frogwoman]

Because Boris Johnson.

You'd have thought he'd have advisers telling him to stop doing this sort of thing.

Oh

 

[Artaxerxes]

You'd have thought he'd have advisers telling him to stop doing this sort of thing.

Oh

They've never told him to stop before.

Its interesting considering his whole "I want to be Churchill" fetish because Boris mistakes buffoonery for wit.

 

[frogwoman]

Not sure the thought of having two huge boxing gloves to pummel covid to the ground hits the right note tbh. It's like the whole 'battle with cancer' thing.

 

[dshl]

Well, they would clearly have to have had covid to die from it, but yes it's per 1,000 people, so 2 out of 1,000 aged 60-69.

Yes, 2 died from covid and 998 of them may or may not have ever had covid in the first place.

..as opposed to 998 being known covid survivors.

That's what I'm now taking from this.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I really, really don't want to give Morgan credit, and certainly don't hold him up as some great champion of the people, but this is at least a little bit of excruciating fun for a Monday morning.

 

[two sheds]

Blank look in the eyes as he responds, the cunts have no shame

 

[frogwoman]

Why isn't the window open?

 

[Lord Camomile]

I really, really don't want to give Morgan credit, and certainly don't hold him up as some great champion of the people, but this is at least a little bit of excruciating fun for a Monday morning.

Pointless little thing, but I'm pretty sure he's talking to ITV while standing outside BBC Broadcasting House Guess he's doing the rounds, but still amused my simple mind.

 

[Mation]

Why isn't the window open?

Where? Here?

Windows closed. No masks. Less than 2 metres. Great job, BoJo.

 

[existentialist]

Where? Here?

Windows closed. No masks. Less than 2 metres. Great job, BoJo.

Nothing to do with Covid, I know, but wouldn't you think that people in the public eye - you know, like MPs - would get a few lessons in how to present well. That pair standing there, mimicking each other's posture, look like a couple of washed-up song-and-dance men. Without the creativity or charisma, naturally.

And neither of them seems to know how to tie a tie propely, either.

 

[Mation]

That pair standing there, mimicking each other's posture, look like a couple of washed-up song-and-dance men. Without the creativity or charisma, naturally.

If only they would retrain.

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah it looks like some terrible laurel and hardy tribute

 

[existentialist]

Yeah it looks like some terrible laurel and hardy tribute

"And it's 'fuck off, poor people' from him..."