existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Nice spike, just in time for the death rates to peak over the season...
"On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me..."
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Looby
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You reminded me to check ours. 455 today, fucking hell.
I don’t have the headspace to try and work out if this is caused by a big lag or we’ve had some superspreader events. I think we were around 200 per day last week.
My dad is in Lewes and they messaged today to say they are going to isolate for a while. Also we all agreed to postpone Christmas till January or when things are safe.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Lewes District has under half the cases of Brighton & Hove City, slightly higher than Worthing Borough, not by a lot, but equally scary being there's a lot of people from both places commuting in & out of Brighton.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
How do you find out daily cases in a particular region?
Elderly population (round the whole area)
I thought you would have to prise car boot sales from my dad's cold dead hands but he gave them (Brighton) up before they were closed down. He lives in Lewes but (not at the moment) shops and potters round Brighton a lot.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
You reminded me to check ours. 455 today, fucking hell.
Looks like a similar rise in reported cases.
There's no easy option now (which I can see!) to check when reported cases were added, locally, but I do scroll back to look at 'worst' days by specimen date, and this looked to add significant amounts onto those, from weeks ago. Dunno if it's pressure on testing (while testing has apparently grown but not been utlised/is meaningless), or track and trace results, or what - but there are certainly some late specimen results being added here. I do try to shy away from anything that's not factual but it is difficult when you have to guess at so much, with such a bad record.
Badgers - glad your dad is up for halting things. Alt. Xmas ahoy
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cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
The government's dashboard, towards the bottom of this page you can use the postcode checker or map.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Innit. I'm just the other side of the river from you
He does not care for Christmas and is not really social generally. But is fiercely family so it is a bit hard. Christmas is the only time of year he 'entertains' anyone (badly mostly) but am going to make it up. His missus is genuinely scared of C-19 and is going out less and less which is a bit sad.@Badgers - glad your dad is up for halting things. Alt. Xmas ahoy
A positive (there is always is isn't there?) is we are talking more on the phone, writing more and now have a new 'thing' which is every morning I send a photo of an Otter with a message saying 'Good Morning from the Isolation Station'
Now if I forget or am late he worries 
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
As you can see, there's three council areas in both East Sussex & West Sussex doing OKish, separated by B&H City, but also with problem areas surrounding us in all directions.
That's a bit of luck, that could easily run out, so solidarity with those areas, we are all in this together.
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In todays press conference the idea of strengthening the tier system restrictions when the national lockdown ends came up. Now there is an article about it. If the numbers are still very grim come December 2nd then thats one way they can continue harsher measures while claiming to have stuck to their word about national lockdown ending on December 2nd under all circumstances.
Covid: England tier system may need strengthening - government adviser
The impact of the three-tier Covid system in England was varied, says a senior health official.www.bbc.co.uk
I checked Bristol earlier and fear we might end up as L2 or L3 if restrictions are lifted on 2nd Dec. Was 429 /100K. A big increase on the last time I looked a couple of weeks ago.
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Cloo
Banana for scale
What was the issue with diagnostic testing? Seen as too cumbersome/expensive?
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Needs to be a colour worse than purple, to make those of us living in a sea of purple be grateful that at least we're not Hull.
Thanks for your solidarity.
Looby
Well-Known Member
That’s so sweet!He does not care for Christmas and is not really social generally. But is fiercely family so it is a bit hard. Christmas is the only time of year he 'entertains' anyone (badly mostly) but am going to make it up. His missus is genuinely scared of C-19 and is going out less and less which is a bit sad.
A positive (there is always is isn't there?) is we are talking more on the phone, writing more and now have a new 'thing' which is every morning I send a photo of an Otter with a message saying 'Good Morning from the Isolation Station'
It’s really helped Mr Looby be more involved with his mum and they speak a lot more. We used to go months without seeing her because he didn’t make the effort but now we see her fortnightly to do her shopping. We chat through the window because she’s vulnerable and very frightened but it’s still nice. She really needs it and I wish she’d done a bit more in the summer when cases were low. She’s left the house once since March and that was for her flu jab.
We had a takeaway coffee together last week and Mr Looby picked the dog up so she could give him a kiss and take his picture.
20Bees
Well-Known Member
His inability to speak without smirking and suppressing a chuckle makes it incredibly hard to take him seriously. When he doesn’t appear to grasp the gravity of any situation, he has no hope of looking (or sounding) like a statesman. It’s so unpleasant watching and hearing him address the nation.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
He's never had to have or desired empathy with another human being in his life.
We're lucky he doesn't get his dick out and piss on the coffins.
From near the foot of the previous page on this thread :
And beyond!
2020 will bring my third serious (and near-completely!) Dry December, 1st to 24th** December inclusive ........
**up to about 2 pm on Xmas Eve, anyway
Pre-Xmas pubs will, as ever, and especially this year, be utterly horrendous everywhere!
And beyond!
2020 will bring my third serious (and near-completely!) Dry December, 1st to 24th** December inclusive ........
**up to about 2 pm on Xmas Eve, anyway
Pre-Xmas pubs will, as ever, and especially this year, be utterly horrendous everywhere!
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Raheem
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Bit of gossip from a civil servant friend.
The daily briefings used to be supported by a team of statisticians, who were redeployed when they were stopped. They have not been brought back for the resurrected briefings, which is why the graphs have been so awful.
They've now gone round different gov departments trying to poach new statisticians to work on the graphs etc.
The daily briefings used to be supported by a team of statisticians, who were redeployed when they were stopped. They have not been brought back for the resurrected briefings, which is why the graphs have been so awful.
They've now gone round different gov departments trying to poach new statisticians to work on the graphs etc.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I dont think I've ever tried to research the background properly but its the sort of situation that probably developed over many decades, and the establishment got comfortable with using sentinel surveillance systems to monitor things instead. Which only requires testing on a vastly smaller scale. And I assume those in the medical profession have been well used to routine diagnostics being used for certain conditions and not others, because it was probably always that way, especially with widespread respiratory diseases, and the impetus for change was not there until this pandemic. This country has long contributed in its own ways to the diagnostics industry and we are not ignorant of the technological advances over decades that unlocked all sorts of possibilities on paper, but I expect there was never the ambition, funding of sense of priorities to actually make it happen here at scale.
The way things have been on these fronts in my lifetime, I could not even guarantee that every nasty epidemic that has been though to be flu in my lifetime was really always a straightforward influenza story. Our surveillance of the other human coronaviruses, that tend to get lumped together with some other viruses as 'the common cold', hasnt been very impressive for a start.
elbows
Well-Known Member
For quite a while in the first wave, daily slides and accompanying data file from the number 10 press conferences were the only publicly published source for a lot of the daily pandemic data. This included some useful hospital data which they just stopped publishing one day at a crucial moment, and then resumed some time later. It used to drive me nuts because I didnt have other sources so their whims had a big impact. But at some point that data and more besides became a part of the dashboard, and I can also get various NHS England data from the NHS website. So in terms of proper access to meaningful daily data, I'm not bothered by the lack of graphs from number 10 these days.
But in terms of public communication and making this feel like a period of extra restrictions with a different mood, emphasis etc, the lack of sombre graphs evolving every day at the press conferences may be an issue. I dont know though, there are reasons other than lack of available statisticians why they may be avoiding most graphs these days. They came in for a lot of criticism about various aspects of various graphs Whitty & Vallance used when delivering messages about the need for tougher measures to the public on several occasions. Some of the criticisms were the anti-lockdown sections of the media being shitty, but plenty of the complaints were valid in one way or another. And then they had the NHS bloke at a press conference who made a big deal of how he only had one graph to show, and spoke about things using plain language, and that seemed to go down quite well with people on that day. They've used an updated version of that graph has been used once or twice since, and I will paste the last version of it that I saw below.
from https://assets.publishing.service.g.../935031/20201112_-_Press_conference_slide.pdf
If I were making such decisions then I certainly think it would be hospital data that I would focus on right now, and despite the number of graphs I churn out I do recognise the need to stick to a few and not bombard people with too much. I think I might struggle a little if I only got to show number of Covid-19 patients in hospital because I'd want to show some regional info about that picture too, and I would also want to do the same for number of daily hospital admissions. Regardless of what the government get round to presenting in the days ahead, there will probably be a number of occasions over the next 10 days where I will want to show such graphs here myself. I prefer to post them when I can attach a proper story to them though, and that can be tricky at times like these where we wait to see if things get worse or better. Every recent trend in the data runs the risk of not standing the test of time, making it tricky for me to choose the right moment to draw attention to the data.
AverageJoe
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Go go my little town! An oasis of green. Mainly cos there's nothing worth going out for, but hey - little victories eh...
AverageJoe
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So good I had to post the pic twice. Apparently.
Go me
Go me
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
SolidarityNot exactly, my own dentist gave 3-months notice that they were ending their NHS contract, because covid precautions were limiting how many people they could see in a day, so I needed to find another dentist.
Having called over a dozen NHS dentists locally, not a single one is currently taking on new patients, not NHS nor even private, because of covid.
I rang all dentists in Croydon
Non taking on nhs patients
'Cept one in west Norwood but I wouldn't trust him as he's genuinely scary, angry and shouty
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