Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[weepiper]

"sources"

Yeah. Cunty Dominic, obvs.

 

[Badgers]

Two media sources.

Anything from our elected government?

 

[ska invita]

Two media sources.

Anything from our elected government?

dont encourage them. ghostface killa will be back at the podium tomorrow for sure

 

[Miss-Shelf]

It seems extremely likely that a lockdown is happening very soon. I imagine it equally likely that it will involve the military.

Anecdotally, a friend's husband (who is in the army) has been told it's happening in a couple of days but that should be taken with a pinch of salt, obvs.

So many people have relatives in the military cos I've heard that from loads of people today

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Not even from that taxi driver?

Not from him no.

 

[spitfire]

10,000 extra troops to join British army's Covid support force

MoD doubles size of force amid fears over ability of police and NHS to cope with crisis

www.theguardian.com

 

[Puddy_Tat]

notice is given - starts friday, no?

all very vague - sources suggest / rumours / conjecture at the moment

from a public health point of view, if they do announce that the border will be sealed, can't help thinking that will encourage people to rush to gtfo from london - and not sure that's really a great idea...

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

perhaps army medics etc working within nhs.

An awful lot of Army medics are reservists who work for the NHS anyway.

 

[two sheds]

all very vague - sources suggest / rumours / conjecture at the moment

from a public health point of view, if they do announce that the border will be sealed, can't help thinking that will encourage people to rush to gtfo from london - and not sure that's really a great idea...

they'll all come to their second homes in Cornwall

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I don’t get why people are suddenly so surprised by the prospect of the army being involved. Being there to be used for situations like this is literally part of their job.

 

[elbows]

I've moved on a little with my thoughts and I will now be surprised if there isnt a London lockdown by Friday (or at least announcement of it by then).

But I'm not including any particular army stuff in my idea of what the first stages of that lockdown must mean.

 

[belboid]

'They' were trying to get through to the end of English school term, I reckon. Announce a weeks 'recommended' shutdown to get us used to it and then go in for the full shebang. But...events, dear boy, events.

 

[keybored]

I don’t get why people are suddenly so surprised by the prospect of the army being involved. Being there to be used for situations like this is literally part of their job.

I don't think anyone is surprised by the prospect armies might be mobilised during a global pandemic.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Hmmm - going to be interesting over the next few months with the countrys entire population of teenagers out of school and with absolutely nothing to do.

 

[two sheds]

and the police off doing other things

UK police to start 'graduated withdrawal of service' if coronavirus outbreak worsens

‘Things will have to change and we will adjust our service accordingly,’ senior officer tells MPs

www.independent.co.uk

 

[ska invita]

Hmmm - going to be interesting over the next few months with the countrys entire population of teenagers out of school and with absolutely nothing to do.

Also there's a lot of overcrowded living in london and no doubt other cities. I was involved with a young offenders project for a while and parents of the kids time and again said they had to let them out on the street as there's just not the room for everyone in the family to be in all the time. Add a heatwave, a collapsing economy, a global depression, not being allowed out of the house, and what looks like lots of people with zero money coming in all of a sudden........

 

[Grace Johnson]

Hmmm - going to be interesting over the next few months with the countrys entire population of teenagers out of school and with absolutely nothing to do.

What will be more difficult is another long hot summer in the inner city if noone has enough money for food, rent or bills.

The government need to do something here to guarantee income for everyone now. If they don't and they are trying to enforce lockdown with a depleted police force and the military on the streets. It is going to kick off.

 

[Grace Johnson]

...........

 

[Grace Johnson]

Hmmm - going to be interesting over the next few months with the countrys entire population of teenagers out of school and with absolutely nothing to do.

If all we have to worry about around here is bored teenagers we will be fckin blessed to be honest.

 

[editor]

Terrifying stuff:

Boris Johnson’s face bore the strain of the past three weeks, during which coronavirus went from being a distant menace to one that threatened to consume Britain’s economy, spread death across the country and dominate his premiership. The British prime minister has gone in a matter of days from advising people to wash their hands to planning the closure of London, followed by the rest of the country; government officials expect the capital to be locked down as early as Friday. As the UK death toll jumped by 33 to 104 — and with the pound crashing around him — a pale-faced Mr Johnson announced at a press conference plans to close the country’s schools, declaring: “We will not hesitate to go further and faster in the days and weeks ahead.”

While Mr Johnson was addressing the country, officials were being briefed on plans to close down London — the worst affected part of Britain — as early as Friday, with police being put on standby to prevent the possible looting of deserted town centres. According to one person briefed on the proposal, there would be a full lockdown of the capital with only one person allowed to leave home at a time, with no entry to local shopping areas. Supermarkets would be guarded by police, while pharmacies would be among the few other shops to remain open. Two officials briefed on the proposals said residents and business would be given just 12 hours’ notice of the new restrictions. They could initially be in place for about a fortnight. Mr Johnson did not deny that plans for a lockdown existed, and his allies say only that “the situation is moving fast”. A number of senior Whitehall officials have told the Financial Times they expect the plan to be implemented in London on Friday.

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www.ft.com

 

[LDC]

Sorry for The Guardian again, but looks like plans being stepped up to help with the logistics chain and some areas of the medical response.

10,000 extra troops to join British army's Covid support force

MoD doubles size of force amid fears over ability of police and NHS to cope with crisis

www.theguardian.com

 

[bimble]

Sorry for The Guardian again, but looks like plans being stepped up to help with the logistics chain and some areas of the medical response.

and 'the armed forces need to be prepared for the threat of a breakdown in civil order given that troops have been deployed in other countries to enforce lockdowns and prevent looting of shops.'
Also if they are seriously going to try to 'contain' London how would they do it? checkpoints ? I have no idea obvs.

 

[High Voltage]

MoD preparing to send thousands of medics into NHS rather than build field hospitals

Bloody hell They're not going to be reactivating Sasaferrato are they

 

[LDC]

Bloody hell They're not going to be reactivating Sasaferrato are they

Reanimating you mean?

 

[High Voltage]

Reanimating you mean?

That's . . . harsh

 

[tim]

So even under normal circumstances there are 10,000 troops sitting in British barracks prepared to come out and shoot us if we get uppity

 

[Steel Icarus]

 

[ska invita]

and 'the armed forces need to be prepared for the threat of a breakdown in civil order given that troops have been deployed in other countries to enforce lockdowns and prevent looting of shops.'

like i said on the Lockdown thread, there's a lot of overcrowded living in London and no doubt other cities. I was involved with a young offenders project for a while and parents of the kids time and again said they had to let them out on the street as there's just not the room for everyone in the family to be in all the time. Add a heatwave, a collapsing economy, a global depression, not being allowed out of the house, and what looks like lots of people with zero money coming in all of a sudden........ army is going to be heavily outnumbered. Actually the heatwave bit is irrelevant. This is why BJ looks like he just shat the bed.

 

[StoneRoad]

Does BoJo really think the army - ie the personnel - are going to be immune (unless the troops go full out with the B in NBC suits) ???

 

[ska invita]

How many active British soldiers are here in the UK, as opposed to station abroad?