Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[ruffneck23]

Also if they are seriously going to try to 'contain' London how would they do it? checkpoints ? I have no idea obvs.

Close every exit on the m25 ?

 

[planetgeli]

Is it really called 'Broadshare'? You couldn't make it up.

I was going to start a thread 'Civil Disobedience - inevitable?' but I guess this will do.

I think it is inevitable. A hungry population is an angry population. And we are already seeing a definite lack of 'broadly sharing' as morons fill up their estate cars, freezers and garages leaving empty shelves in their wake. 40,000 arrests for non-compliance already in Italy. Fines tripled in France.

I work with severely disadvantaged kids from severely disadvantaged families who don't give a toss for obeying general laws, let alone emergency ones. A possible death sentence from coronavirus means nothing to them. Their lives are so bad, so in the gutter, they simply don't care for normal rules. Good luck with keeping them off the streets.

If this runs and runs, with attempts to keep people indoors with no food and little to entertain them, no childcare in schools...yeah, I can see what direction this could head in pretty quickly.

 

[brogdale]

Close every exit on the m25 ?

That'll be it.
OK for north Ockendon?

 

[tim]

Does BoJo really think the army - ie the personnel - are going to be immune (unless the troops go full out with the B in NBC suits) ???

Given that there are probably very few octogenarians with complex health problems on active service in the British army the effects on any of them that contract the virus are likely to be non-lethal and fairly short-term. This is a nasty bug, but it isn't the Black Death and we're not living in the 14th Century.

 

[Idris2002]

"Broadshare calling Danny Boy"

(Come on, you're all thinking it)

 

[High Voltage]

"Broadshare calling Bozo Boy" is what I was thinking TBH

 

[StoneRoad]

Given that there are probably very few octogenarians with complex health problems on active service in the British army the effects on any of them that contract the virus are likely to be non-lethal and fairly short-term. This is a nasty bug, but it isn't the Black Death and we're not living in the 14th Century.

People going about their business when contagious is what spreads infections - and some germ factories will be asymptomatic ... it is the vulnerable that need protecting as much as they need supplies.

 

[frogwoman]

It's not just old people dying tho is it.

 

[LDC]

It's not just old people dying tho is it.

No, or getting critically ill and needing ICU. The first person in my extended circle (cousin's workmate) to get that I know of it is a fit 27 year old who's on ICU. But statistically it is very unlikely. Anyway, back to the subject...

 

[Sasaferrato]

Bloody hell They're not going to be reactivating Sasaferrato are they

No!

 

[brogdale]

No!

Did you say you weren't willing to shoot 'looters'?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Reanimating you mean?

My 'animation' is in perfect working order I'll have you know!

 

[Sasaferrato]

Did you say you weren't willing to shoot 'looters'?

Looters certainly deserve to be shot, it is a vile act, but not by me.

 

[brogdale]

Looters certainly deserve to be shot, it is a vile act, but not by me.

So that's a "i wouldn't shoot my fellow citizens", then?

 

[kebabking]

So that's a "i wouldn't shoot my fellow citizens", then?

Surely it depends on how full ones freezer is?

 

[Sasaferrato]

So that's a "i wouldn't shoot my fellow citizens", then?

On a slightly serious note, your "Fellow citizens" engaged in food looting are putting the whole community at risk. Really not on. If looters were to be shot, it wouldn't be many, as it is a major discouragement. When people behave in a manner that endangers others, strong measures may be required. I don't think for one moment that it would come to that.

 

[brogdale]

We'll see, won't we?

 

[cupid_stunt]

I now have this image in my head of Sasaferrato as Fraser from Dad's Army, "we're doomed!"

 

[Steel Icarus]

Operation ShockDoctrine more like amirite

 

[Sasaferrato]

We'll see, won't we?

If society breaks down to the point of shooting looters, we are finished as a nation.

Mrs Sas was over at ASDA earlier, to shop for our neighbours, two adults and four children, who are busy passing the bug amongst themselves, taking advantage of early entry for wrinklies. The queue started before 6am when they open.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I now have this image in my head of Sasaferrato as Fraser from Dad's Army, "we're doomed!"

More 'Don't panic'.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Another MP has tested positive, Lloyd Russell-Moyle, Labour MP for Brighton Kemptown.

Sussex MP tests positive for coronavirus a week after self-isolating

A Sussex MP has tested positive for the coronavirus.

www.worthingherald.co.uk

 

[brogdale]

Looks like this will be the gist of what they're going to do to us in London:

 

[brogdale]

1 person allowed to leave home at a time

A squaddie on every door?
lol

 

[brogdale]

If society breaks down to the point of shooting looters, we are finished as a nation.

Brace yourself.

 

[gentlegreen]

This has probably already been posted, but I found this interesting as I painfully slowly try to get a measure of this thing ...
This guy suggests that like the Spanish flu, this is roughly 25 times as risky to catch as regular flu.
Though his background is in electronics and computer sales...

 

[Ax^]

The Toilet Paper riots

Well it will give Bojo Pm ship a interesting legacy

 

[LeytonCatLady]

There's probably not much point me busking with all this going on, so I'm going to claim Universal Credit to cover my expenses. I'll have to look for a certain amount of jobs per day, assuming anyone's hiring. As far as I know, we're still allowed to go out walking for exercise as long as we stay 2 metres away from others, so hopefully I won't get cabin fever.

 

[killer b]

And a much more recent example of reassuring words about Whitty, albeit with some slight recognition of the difficult political moments of the last week.

Chris Whitty: The man with our lives in his hands

The UK government's chief medical adviser has become the public face of the coronavirus response.

www.bbc.co.uk

These sorts of pieces usually have a bit where they would normally attempt to humanise the official, go into some detail about their family or interests, but very little info on that is available in the case of Whitty so we get an awkward bit instead. At least this particular ones awkward bit didnt include language and security service attitudes that sound more like something from the 1950s.

ha yeah, the only family colour on Whitty is that his dad was obviously a spook, and involved in stuff heavy enough to get dead for it.

 

[prunus]

This has probably already been posted, but I found this interesting as I painfully slowly try to get a measure of this thing ...
This guy suggests that like the Spanish flu, this is roughly 25 times as risky to catch as regular flu.
Though his background is in electronics and computer sales...

Not watched it, but I would just note that the demographic risk is a very different shape for this one, so that blanket statement isn’t really applicable to most people. He might address that, but I wanted to flag for people who might only read the headline.