Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Raheem]

Those bloody young people. They were told very clearly not to socialise under any circumstances unless it was for a half-price McDonalds, to go back to the office or to enjoy a staycation.

 

[Teaboy]

I blame the parents.

 

[two sheds]

I used to blame the parents but now that I'm over 60 I blame the grandparents.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It's clearly an expert and clinical review of the available evidence that has seen the government come up with the phrase 'don't kill grandma.'

 

[brogdale]

I used to blame the parents but now that I'm over 60 I blame the grandparents.

Remember when it was the old fuckers gathering in those carehomes that were to blame?

 

[two sheds]

Yep, government soon sorted them twats out

 

[clicker]

What are the age group, of most of the staff, serving pints and pasta to the mon-weds bods? I'd hazard a guess they're within the age group currently being blamed. They've been told to go back to work and education and to use public transport. How dare they get ill.

 

[Raheem]

How long before they change it to "Don't kill Grandma, within reason"?

 

[two sheds]

or "Don't kill Grandma, if there's anybody watching"

 

[agricola]

COVID-free passports is perhaps the stupidest thing I've heard this year.

 

[pesh]

COVID-free passports is perhaps the stupidest thing I've heard this year.

Any word on what colour they would be?

 

[prunus]

Any word on what colour they would be?

The colour of failure.

 

[pesh]

Very very very dark blue?

 

[maomao]

or "Don't kill Grandma, if there's anybody watching"

Don't kill grandma unless you can't do your job from home.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Well exactly. I dropped ftw off at nursery this morning and wore a mask today. So I couldn't kiss my child goodbye but everyone at drop off is cross contaminated anyway as they mingle once inside (within bubbles but drop off is timed with the bubble). It just seems stupid.

I heard one of them on the radio a couple of weeks ago warning parents not to hang around at the school gates socialising. It felt like they were literally lining that up as an excuse to be used if infection rates went up around the kids going back to school.

 

[elbows]

I'm a fan of using mass testing to unlock new options, but there is something a bit silly about dressing it up as Operation Moonshot when the trial/timing hopes Johnson raised were actually more like Operation Save Panto Season.

 

[Petcha]

Why are religious meetings exempt from this?

And I know it's un PC but allegedly a lot of this new outbreak is amongst the Muslim population up north. Should Friday prayers go ahead?

I'm not, anti-Islamic. I'm an Atheist yes. But why the fuck should hundreds of people be allowed to gather for hours to pray (indoors) to some non-existent being? Why is that allowed but not outdoor raves?

 

[clicker]

COVID-free passports is perhaps the stupidest thing I've heard this year.

Bet they top it before the year ends.

 

[BlanketAddict]

Why are religious meetings exempt from this?

And I know it's un PC but allegedly a lot of this new outbreak is amongst the Muslim population up north. Should Friday prayers go ahead?

I'm not, anti-Islamic. I'm an Atheist yes. But why the fuck should hundreds of people be allowed to gather for hours to pray (indoors) to some non-existent being? Why is that allowed but not outdoor raves?

You've gotta hedge your bets when it comes to god

 

[Raheem]

Don't kill grandma unless you can't do your job from home.

"Grandma doesn't want to be a burden and the new James Bond is supposed to be really good."

 

[andysays]

Why are religious meetings exempt from this?

And I know it's un PC but allegedly a lot of this new outbreak is amongst the Muslim population up north. Should Friday prayers go ahead?

I'm not, anti-Islamic. I'm an Atheist yes. But why the fuck should hundreds of people be allowed to gather for hours to pray (indoors) to some non-existent being? Why is that allowed but not outdoor raves?

I think we'd need a little bit more than that

 

[brogdale]

COVID-free passports is perhaps the stupidest thing I've heard this year.

Maybe you've already forgotten Hancock's protective ring around our care homes ?

 

[agricola]

Maybe you've already forgotten Hancock's protective ring around our care homes ?

I included that, and the bleach / UV light double-header.

 

[zahir]

Dominic Harrison, Blackburn’s director of public health, on the problems with test and trace.

National testing capacity is not keeping pace with the need for testing. In Blackburn with Darwen, even at the height of local intervention measures in late August 2020, on-line testing booking was periodically taken off line to ‘throttle demand’ at times where the labs processing capacity was overwhelmed. This makes locally sustaining adequate population testing levels very difficult.

We must rapidly improve Test and Trace

According to the SAGE ‘worst case scenario' seen by BBC's Newsnight in August 2020, as many as 85,000 people could die in the UK in a second wave of coronavirus...

www.themj.co.uk

Dominic Harrison (@BWDDPH) on Twitter

 

[Miss-Shelf]

No individual needed to book a holiday in a other country
I'll admit the messaging has been shocking but people have enough information about why not

 

[zahir]

Endemic Covid - read the thread.

 

[brogdale]

I included that, and the bleach / UV light double-header.

Good that we can ...but the news is unremittingly grim atm, innit.

Omniclusterfuckastropheshambles

 

[Espresso]

Bet they top it before the year ends.

I'd be highly surprised if they didn't top it before this week ends.

 

[sheothebudworths]

COVID-free passports is perhaps the stupidest thing I've heard this year.

Another opportunity for Boris to speak French, though (the same phrase, repeatedly).

 

[elbows]

By the way the posts I make which involve lots of quotes and graphs are a bit out of place when these main threads are busy with discussion. So I created a nerdy thread for the more in-depth stuff that features too many quotes or graphs to be reasonable to put here. Sometimes this might be older material, sometimes it might be more relevant to the emerging current situation, eg my second post in the thread deals with the slides from todays press conference. Which is the only reason I'm briefly advertising the thread here, since some of what I've said in that post I would previously of been going on about here instead. The nerdy amounts of pandemic detail thread

Others are of course welcome to contribute.